A QUESTION FOR WOODY BOATERS – Why have a mast on a classic motor boat*
Can You Spot The Difference Between The Two Photos Above Of SKIPJACK ?
*It is something I get asked a lot, mainly when someone is restoring a classic wooden launch and trying to decide if they should reinstate the wooden mast that they have seen in older b/w photos. My answer is always yes and this based on the belief the mast was never about sailing power — it served practical, traditional, and aesthetic purposes. It was used to hoist navigation and signal flags, support lights or an awning, and sometimes rig a small boom for lifting dinghies or stores. A few launches even set a steadying sail to ease rolling in a swell.
But most importantly, to me, reinstalling a mast preserves originality and gives a launch a proper profile and balances her shape — and adds character. So in short: not for sailing power, but for utility, stability, and looks.
Still on the topic and focussing on the area of stability, during the week Greg Billington the owner of the 1918 Chas Bailey built launch – SKIPJACK contacted me following up on the story we did on SKIPJACK. Greg had two things he wanted to share – 1. SKIPJACK was no longer for sale, he had seen the light and decided to keep her ✔️ – we liked that.
And 2. Share a recent experience around masts on old classic launches – I’ll hand over to Greg to tell the story:
“I thought I would share something that may be of interest to readers. Along the lines of ‘a little knowledge is a dangerous thing…’
I was offshore on one occasion when a beam sea knocked the boat over such that I had this thought – ‘that heavy wooden mast must go.’ I had this thought because it appeared that bringing the mast back up was an issue. It wasn’t, obviously. Nevertheless, I thought I would lower the centre of gravity and improve the righting moment with a shorter, lighter mast. So, I installed an alloy mast, which did make the boat significantly stiffer, but sometimes more than I wanted.
After much thought and further reading, I decided that the original wooden mast must have made the boat more tender i.e. slowing and dampening roll and therefore making for a more comfortable ride. Guess what? It did. So, I am attaching a couple of pics showing the alloy mast, and then the old wooden mast back where it belongs and I can say that the motion in any sea is considerably improved. Which goes to show, and I don’t mind admitting, that the boat builder knew far more than me.”
And woodys for the record the 2nd photo above is the wooden mast 😉
Earlier this year the 33’ launch – SKIPJACK made an appearance on tme (thanks Ian McDonald) at the time we were told that SKIPJACK was built in 1918 by Chas Bailey. During her life she has twice been ‘modified’ to create more headroom in the wheelhouse and cabin.
Forward motion is via a 80hp Ford Dover diesel engine that gets her along at a comfortable 7.5 knots.
SKIPJACK has had several home ports having spent time in Auckland and now calls Waikawa marina in Picton home.
The launch has made several appearances on WW, the most recent back in July 2019, link below, when she was relocating south (by road). In a previous life was was named SEA DEVIL. https://waitematawoodys.com/2019/07/26/skipjack-sea-devil/
Hi Alan – nice to see Skipjack, nee Sea De’il featured in a recent post. Perhaps I can clarify re your question about whether James Hoey’s boat is in fact Skipjack? You are quite correct that the length has changed. Many things have changed with this boat since she was launched! The owner/guardian before me, which is pre-2016, was Brent Gribble of AkzoNobel Paints. Brent and his father had a major stern modification carried out by Glenn Burnnand of Burnnand Marine in Auckland. This increased her length to 10 metres, with a square, step-through transom and with a fish cleaning s/s basin built-in. Prior to Brent’s ownership, Sea Devil, as she was called then, was a restoration project for Captain Vern Tonks in Whangarei. I received the boat’s original history from Winston Hoey, via Brent. Winston recorded that Sea De’il was built and designed by Chas Bailey circa 1918, for James Hoey and his son Cecil (Born 1901). The boat was used for transport from Whangarei to Reotahi Meat Works, near where the family bach was located. She was powered originally by a flat head Dodge or Desoto gear, and the first doghouse was added in 1928.
Cecil Hoey in stern of “Sea De’il” in Whangarei Harbour
Subsequently, Dec 1951 – ship wrights Angus Henderson and Bill Naggs – built a new cabin to create more head room. They also created the step-up foredeck, and added the lead board on the bow. This was built of Kowhai timber and each rib in the boat was replicated – doubling the ribs in the hull to strengthen for the extension, and a bronze rudder was cast in Whangarei. At this time too, a 4-cylinder Ruston Engine was fitted.
After the refit and new topsides in 1952
In 2005, after hearing she was destined for the tip, Captain Vern Tonks took her on as his “passionate hobby”. Captain Tonks was quoted saying, “She’s a piece of Whangarei’s history that requires restoring. It’s quite amazing really how many of them are lying around the country, sticking out from under covers, in various states of disrepair. We are a very strong nation of boating people and unfortunately a lot of these crafts have become non-existent and some of them are nice classic vessels”
Vern expected that he had a two-year project. He completely gutted her and started rebuilding the structure, keeping the original portholes, installing a new wheel house with the engine under the floor and a couple of bilge keels to dampen rolling. “Three or four trailer loads have gone to the dump out of her. She’s been derelict for so long and from what I’ve found there was a lot of things that weren’t up to spec in the construction. Someone somewhere along the way has put a lot of veneered Rimu custom wood into her, which is allergic to water and of course it all went rotten. So, I got to the stage where all the timber I’ve had sitting around is coming to good use”
Vern also changed the name back to the English meaning of Sea Devil. Sadly though, one month before finishing her, with plans to compete in the Classic Boat fishing completion in Whangaroa Harbour, Vern passed away in 2008.
This is when Brent and Sarina Gribble took over the project, and with the help of widow June Tonks and close friend of Vern’s and Brent’s – Steve Ekman, they completed the refit, and in June 2008, she was launched on the beach at Oakura at low tide – going back in the water for the first time in 23 years. After a time, Brent took her to the Outboard Boating Club, onto a swing mooring in the Okahu Lagoon, and as mentioned, I purchased her and kept her there before moving her in 2019 to her current berth in the Waikawa Marina in the Sounds.
June 2008, Oakura Beach Whangaruru, Peter Gribble in foreground
Like all classic boats, and especially those of considerable age, Skipjack has had lots of work done to suit the inclinations of the various owners and simply to keep her seaworthy. Since I’ve been taking care of her, I’ve concentrated primarily on improving the mechanical side of things – which has included all keel-bolt replacement (which you reported at the time), new prop and shaft, new gearbox shaft and universal, new steering, all engine seals and engine mounts replaced (Ford Dover 80hp), new water-pump and tanks (replacing an old copper hot water cylinder!), new stove, Eberspacher diesel heater (which in the Sounds makes winter cruising a doddle…), replacement of all topside decks, new mast, large holding tank and shore pump-out fitting, new electric toilet, new oil cooler and all hosing upgraded, all s/s exhaust system and dry riser…you get the picture! Something always needs to be done. But these days, Skipjack is very seaworthy and much loved! The pic below shows her recently, in Greville Harbour on the western side of D’Urville Island – a trip of around 250kms. Skipjack cruises at 7.5 knots at the engine’s optimum rpm of 1,800.
Over the last 12 months there has been chat (off-line) about the Centaurus’s launch date. As always with events 50+ years ago, things get a little hazy. Last week we were contacted by Graeme and Flo Varcoe and Graeme wanted to clear up any confusion regarding the launch date.
The original owners of Centaurus were the Sibun family and Graeme’s mother was married to Sonny Sibun. Speaking with his sister Graeme was reminded that she was pregnant during the final stages of the build and her daughter, Graeme’s niece was born on March 19th. 1969 and was 3 weeks old at the time of the launching of Centaurus.
So woodys the dates are: Built – 1967/68 – Launched – April 1969
In the last photo above, a close up of her wheel – there is a plaque that states “Built By Baileys 1967” – this is correct, the build did start in 1967, a little unusual to record that rather than the actual splash date – but not for me to question.
During the brother ./ sister discussions a newspaper clipping came to light that Graeme believes was published by the Half Moon Bay Marina. That article appears above, it is a great read, I have also attached it as a downloadable PDF to make it easier to read.
We learn how Centaurus acquired her name – the boat was built in the 100th year of the Chas Bailey yard, so the ‘Cen’ reflects the century and ’taurus’ comes from owner Sonny Sibun’s zodiac sign – Taurus.
As an added bonus the article backgrounds how that lump of an engine – the Cummings V6 215hp diesel (photo below) ended up in the boat. As designed the intention was for a pair of Ford 100hp diesels. Regular WW readers will be aware that Centaurus’s current owner, Angus Rogers has just installed a 175 hp John Deere (photo below)
Centaurus is nearing the end of an extensive refit, and as with most things Angus Rogers rubs up against – Centaurus will be glorious.
UPDATE – Angus Rogers advised the gearbox (Borg Warner) mentioned in the article is incorrect – it was a Capitol.
Haven’t offered up a prize in a while so today is a goodie. Thanks to a Mitchell Hutchings fb post we get to share the two brilliant photos above of the St Mary’s Bay area. Mitchell commented that the photos were dated 1980 but he was not sure of the date. Neil Gillard also commented that the date was more like the 1960’s, as at that time he was serving his time at Chas Bailey’s yard and he recalls the boats (probably the ferries) being moored there then.
This how the quiz will work – each launch you correctly ID, gives you one point – get all there right and you have 3 chances in the draw. ID only 1 = 1 chance. Launch (c) will be a challenge.
THE PRIZE: A copy of the Jenni Mence’s superb tome – ‘K-Class – The Hauraki Gulf’s Iconic Racer-Cruiser’ – 360 pages of photographs, illustrations and tales from the skippers and crew that sailed these stunning classic yachts.
RAMAROA WW was recently contacted by Andrew Butcher who owns the 42’ 6” launch Ramaroa. Andrew and partner Celeste purchased Tamaroa 18 months ago from a gent by the name of Glen Elis, who had brought Tamaroa up from Napier to Sandspit. Post purchased the Butcher’s relocated her to Herald Island, West Auckland.
Andrew believes she was possibly built by Fred Millar and built from double diagonal macrocarpa in 1970. I suspect a lot of marine ply was used in her cabin top / cockpit. A rather distinctive design, so hopefully someone will remember the boat. Her forward motion comes via a Ford D300 diesel engine.
Like all new owners they would love to uncover / confirm details about her past – can we help?
CLASSIC BOAT 2021 AWARDS
This morning at 3am NZ time, the 1895 Chas Bailey designed and C&W Bailey built 58′ gaff cutter – IDA, was voted runner-up in the ‘Restored Sailing Vessel Over 40’ category in the Classic Boat magazine 2021 awards – the winner was Cynara. Full details in the latest edition of Classic Boat.
The Minerva Talking with woody – John Wright the other day and he mentioned that he spotted an old framed photo in the dump bin at the Te Atatu Boat Club, a quick bit of bin diving reduced the photo, which John sent me a copy of and asked for more intel on the vessel – The Minerva, the photo is captioned – ?.N. Jones Family 1986.The rear of the family has a lot of detail, but sadly very hard to read – it says she was built by Chas Bailey, most of the other detail is just too hard to read. Well jackpot – Minerva featured extensively on WW back in March 2015 and we uncovered a lot about her provenance.Snapshot – built in 1910 as a Auckland harbour ferry, she had a very shallow draft for negotiating creeks and estuaries. Her original power was steam via a coal fired boiler, that fuelled two 14hp George Fraser & Son engines. Around 1922 she moved over to the Kaipara Harbour and worked there until the late 1940’s. Around this time she was converted to diesel power and remained a work boat until c.1945. Around then she came back over to the east coast and was rallied and rolled into 1964 when she dropped out of site. There was a reported sighting of her back in 2015 under a cover in Kerikeri. Read / see more here https://waitematawoodys.com/2015/03/04/the-minerva/ Does anyone know her current status / condition?
Photo below dated July 2019 ex google + link to TVNZ story on the restoration project. Both ex K Ricketts
1895 Bailey Gaff Cutter – IDA – Launch Celebration
Yesterday (19th July 2020) afternoon John and Lorraine Street officially launched the latest addition to The Classic Yacht Charitable Trust fleet – Ida the 58’ (45’) gaff cutter. Designed by Chas Bailey and built in 1895 by C&W Bailey.
In December 2018 John and the CYCT shipped Ida back from Sydney where she had resided since c.1985. It would be fair to say that she wasn’t in the best of shape – but Wayne Olsen & Mike Smith at Horizon Boats did their magic and today we got to see the 125 year old woody centre stage at the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron.
I have previously covered the restoration and rigging etc on WW, links below. Also below is a link to the Classic Yacht Charitable Trust website that tells the complete 125 year history of Ida. So I’ll let the photos above tell today’s story.
Below is a video clip of Johns speech – as always very informative and entertaining – turn the volume up and enjoy 🙂
Today’s woody popped up on Lew Redwood’s fb, the photo is tagged Waitangi River, Bay of Islands and dated 07-01-1924. Those with 20/20 vision will note her bow displays the name Marie, but Harold Kidd has advised that when launched by Collings & Bell in 1919 she was named Marne.
She made a brief appearance on WW back in August 2013. Link below
Harold Kidd Input – She was built by Collings &Bell in 1919 as MARNE (although God knows why anyone who had been there would name a boat after that French battleground) for J Goodwill. No details of first engine but probably a Doman. That was replaced with a 4 cylinder (Doman?) when J Parker bought her in 1921. In Parker’s ownership she became MARIE and was fitted with a 40hp Fay & Bowen in 1923. The name MARNE stuck however through later owners. She was pretty well set-up and was valued at 675 pounds, a colossal amount at the time. Alex Stewart bought her in the 1930s and called her MARGARET S. see
1985 Chas Bailey Gaffer – Ida – Invitation To View
Our greatest champion of classic wooden boating – John Street, has asked that I pass on an open invitation to all woody lovers to attend the official ‘christening’ of Ida, the 1895 Chas Bailey designed gaffer. The occasion will held at the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron on Sunday 19th July between 4 and 6pm.
The location provides a perfect platform to get up close to Ida and view the outstanding restoration by Wayne Olsen and the team at Horizon Yachts.
Ida is the latest addition to the majestic fleet of classic wooden craft under the guardianship of The Classic Yacht Charitable Trust.
The 40′ 1896 Bailey TE UIRA is facing being scrapped in Australia, her owner is offering her free to a good (even bad, if it stops the back hoe) home. She is currently located at Glebe in Sydney NSW. Her hull apart from a leak near the the prop is in sound condition, she needs an anti-foul. Her owner says that above the water line is in ok condition, just needs some TLC Her demise is near so if you or anyone you know are interested, contact the owner, George Lloyd, on the email link below.
glloyd01@gmail.com
Harold Kidd Input
TE UIRA (usually shortened in Oz to UIRA) was built by C.& W. Bailey and launched on 17th October 1896 for Gidgeon Palmer of Melbourne as a 5 rater. She was taken across by the steamer TARAWERA with Chas. Bailey Jr going with her to settle her in. She was quite successful in Melbourne but came up against SAYONARA, the bigger Fife-designed cutter. She raced in Melbourne with the St. Kilda club for many years, converted to a Marconi rig in 1925. She was sold to Sydney in 1976 and is now languishing in need of a good owner. SHE NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED.
SAVED – 05-08-2015
Hi Harold, Pam, Alan, Tom, Kelvin and Rhodes33,
Just to let you know that that the task of rescuing Te Uira is under way. Myself and two classic yacht enthusiasts, Colin Grazules and Bruce Harris got together to save her. She has been purchased, scraped, sealed, painted and was put back in the water today. I have gone back to Melbourne with Colin and Bruce towing her across the harbour to Woolwich marina today. She is in a pen waiting for transport to Melbourne which should become available next week. Her hull is in pretty good condition and very solid. Some non structural worm strikes up forward and only a small area of rot in the stern to be dealt with. Obviously that cabin must go and then a new deck and rig. I am the new owner and have a factory to store her in but there is no real plan yet. I would like to gather as much information as possible. If anyone can assist it would be greatly appreciated. The email is p.denniston@celltec.com.au