Lady Joyce 40yrs On

LADY JOYCE  – A 40yr. COMPARISON

I was sent by CYA member Ian Kohler (Ngaio) this c1973 photo of Lady Joyce when see was owned by Sally Cassells Brown. Looking at the photo of her I took earlier this year at Mahurangi, its wonderful to see how she has survived over 40 years & retained her original configuration. Her owner for the last 20 years, John Foreman, needs a medal.

To me what these two photos also show is how the addition of varnish (or possibly wood effect paint in those days) to the coamings can so significantly enhance the look of a classic craft.

For more details on LJ – use the ww search box or click the link below
https://waitematawoodys.com/2014/03/22/lady-joyce/

And to show we are a caring sharing bunch – compilments of HDK via Paperpast is the “Joyce” of LADY JOYCE 🙂

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18/06/2014 – A correction / error to the story- ex Paul Baragwanath

The error relates to the above picture. The Lady Joyce was in fact named after my grandmother, Joyce Winstone, nee Harrowell. Lady Joyce was owned by my great-grandfather, Shirley Harrowell. The photograph above is of her brother Bill Harrowell, Joyce’s brother, and the lady in the photo is Bill’s wife, known as Eddie, but whose name was also Joyce. An easy mistake to make!

I think that my grandmother was born in 1918, If they bought her in 1932 Joyce would have been 25… I am surprised they didn’t buy the Lady Joyce earlier… because Joyce was already married with two children (or so).
They lived at 44 Ranui Road, Remuera and Joyce’s husband Don, my grandfather, bought his first house over the road… and commissioned my little Corsair (Frostbite number 47). Don’s uncle had the big yacht Nga Toa.

13-11-2024 UPDATE ex John Wicks – Hauled out at Chafers marina in Wellington  today.

A left field idea

How’s this for a left field idea

I saw a posting on the CYA forum yesterday that caught my eye. CYA member Greg Schultz is selling a berth & jetty at Tinopai on the Kaipara. Ok it’s a mud berth but at the price it could be a seriously cool idea for an affordable bolt hole. Check the photos out above, the outlook is impressive. I’ll quote from Greg’s post below –

“Ever thought of keeping a boat on the Kaipara. I have a mud berth and jetty for sale very cheap at Tinopai, all Northern regional Council approved etc.

Could put an old boat in it and have an absolute beach front ‘bach’ property…annual rental is about $160. Come up stay/live on board and maybe go out and catch a load of snapper, fishing is still great up here, I caught a 14 pounder a hundred meters off the beach last week and a visitor from the camp ground speared a huge kingie while spearing flounder next to this jetty .

These berths regularly change hands for about $2000-$3000 depending on condition. This one was rebuilt about 12 months ago so should not need anything doing on it for quite a few years. Has had a 45 foot launch moored there before I put my 18ft mullety on it, fine for something up to 26-28ish ft but could require a digger to dig it out for anything much bigger. I will look at the closest offer to my ‘buy now’ price of $1000 if anyone is interested as I now have another berth for Scamp (the mullety)

The photos above were taken about 2 hours after full tide.”

Now here is another twist on things – FV Waimko has just failed its commercial fishing survey due mainly to rot in the foredeck area (shown in photo). The owner hasn’t got the time to do the necessary repairs so would be interested in any reasonable offers around $5000, has a good engine, gearbox, radar, VHF. She could suit someone looking for that ‘seaside bach’ to go on the jetty!

Around $6,000 all up for a waterfront pad – a few ww lads should form a syndicate….

For more details ‪itzgreg@xtra.co.nz

Project Boat Wanted

And if you have or know of a T, S or X yacht lying around, Greg was looking for another mullet boat to restore but has decided something around 12-16’ would be better. So if there is one out there looking for a good home, condition unimportant, contact Greg.

 

CYA CLASSIC JOURNAL #93

Click link below to read the April edition (#93) of the Classic Yacht Association – ‘Classic Journal’. Apologies for being ‘out of syn’ but this issue got lost in transit / translation. Click blue link below.

Enjoy 🙂

CYA CJ 93

Lucinda

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Lucinda

LUCINDA

Built by L. Coulthard for a Mr J Griffin of Epsom, her initial ‘home’ was the Manukau. Records show she was launched with a 12-16hp Ailsa-Craig engine.

Other than this ww is very light on her history so hopefully we can expand on it today.

Harold Kidd Update

Les Coulthard built her in October 1930 for Jack Griffin of Onehunga who was the Vice-Commodore of the Manukau Yacht & Motor Boat Club at the time. Her 10/16hp Ailsa Craig had been taken from his former launch KATUI which Coulthard traded in and later sold. LUCINDA stayed on the Manukau until at least 1940 and I have no knowledge of when she came to the Waitemata and was bridgedeckerised but think it was reasonably recently.

Owner (Nathan Herbert) Update

I wish I had never seen this photo, as I was happy with the current configuration and the excellent interior room/ layout it provides until I saw the looks of the original! The engine now is where the bridge is, but there are old engine beds right up into the bow? Other than those, the only original parts are t+g sole in parts of the cockpit, and the chain locker bulkhead with Bakelite switch and light fitting attached.
The engine sump was toast from salt water in the bilge and after 4 weeks a complete replacement has almost been manufactured for me. James at Moon Diesels helped me out with a similar bell housing to replace the toasted one, which I have modified to fit.
We’ll tow her to Milford in the next week or so to be slipped for a few months to be given a full going over. A lot of gear will be biffed…

Excuse the crudely covered bridge window, I put my hand through it while navigating the sole-less cabin area

Rangitira

RANGITIRA

Looking for a good entry level classic motor launch? Rangitira is currently for sale on trademe. The listing states that she was built in 1929 by Collings & Bell & as expected of a vessel of this era is kauri carvel plank construction.
At 32′ & powered by a Ford 60hp diesel engine that pushes her effortlessly thru the water & she is therefore very economical to run.
The photos of her were taken over the last few years. While her interior is a little tired, she has good bones & has not been ‘mucked around’ with. Very usable as is, but a restoration would be relatively straight forward.
I do not normally mention prices on ww but at $18,000 it is a good entry into classic boating.

As always – ww is interested in hearing more about her past.

Update & photo from previous owner – Tom Jackson

Stolen from her mooring by  school boys from an Auckland boys school and taken to Waiheke.Garboard plank smashed and she sunk. Then refurbished by Derek Dempster.  Sold to me by a Mr Pack in Auckland in 1989  as a  Dick Lang launch. He purchased it from a Whangarei owner who installed the butterfly hatch. Sold by me in 1991 to an American who took her to BOI. Many fond party memories.A great boat.

Ranoni

RANONI

colour photo ex Dean Wright
b/w photo ex Andrew Pollard (opening day of the 1948 Whangarei Deep Sea Anglers Club)
details ex Harold Kidd

Ranoni hails from the Far North so I personally know little about her but Harold Kidd told me she was built by Charlie Gouk at Beaumont Street in the winter of 1911 for the Rushbrook brothers. In 1948 she was owned by O. Mann.

Anyone able to spread some more light on her?

Harold Kidd Update

RANONI was built by Charlie Gouk in August 1911 for the Rushbrook brothers of Onehunga for use on the Waitemata and cruising our east coast.There have been erroneous reports that she was built by Harvey & Lang who were next door to Gouk in Beaumont St. Her first engine was a 20hp Herald. She was 35’x35’x8’6″x2’6″.
The Rushbrooks cruised with her very extensively, up North and to the Bay of Plenty. She became well known in Whangarei and was eventually bought by J. Main of Whangarei in early April 1920. He replaced her engine with a 25-30hp Buffalo in 1924.
In 1941 was taken into NAPS with the number Z38. Her owner was then Alex Matthews and skipper Vere Harrison. She spent most of 1942-4 stationed at Great Barrier.
Postwar she remained in Whangarei. In 1948 she was owned by O. Mann and her callsign was ZLAY 7.

PS During NAPS service she seems to have had a Ford V8.

15/11/2014 – Update on RANONI ex Ken Ricketts

Ranoni was  bought Aug/Sept 2014 by Graham Rigden of Opua, subsequent to her being damaged on her moorings at Opua by another vessel which had dragged or broken its moorings.

She was substantially damaged at the rear end side & stern areas & was taking water. She was regarded as a write off (insurance company?)

Graham a boatbuilder, who works at Opua & you can see in the photos Ken took she is already well on the road to recovery.
She is powered by a 4 cyl Ford Sabre Diesel.

Graham has provided a substantial dossier on her history (click blue link below to read)

RANONi- HISTORY AS AT 3.10.14

The Whangateau Traditional Boat Yard

An insight into the Whangateau Traditional Boat Yard

There has been a lot of great photos posted this week from last Sundays regatta & reviewing them I wondered how many of the ww readers knew the background to Pam & George & the yard. So I asked Pam to tell us a little about themselves & the yard.  So read Pam’s reply below. Alan H

First I have to say thank you to everyone for the wonderful support we had on Sunday welcoming the Dreyer family, the new owners of MV Laughing Lady, our newest arrival at the yard. We attribute this support to a mix of Alan’s awesome website and Jane High’s enthusiasm for bringing everyone together. Special big thanks also to all those that brought boats along, to all the sailors, to the helpers who lent a hand with the rigging and the young pirate that made it such a fun time.
Way back
When George was a little boy he would build small Woollacott type model boats in the back shed. Then under his older brother Jim’s watchful eye he built a Cherub design and then a Zepher. He didn’t sail them on the tranquil Tamaki River but preferred to race them with other keen sailors out and about with the Kawau Yacht Club. Then he built thirty and forty foot trimarans and sailed away to the Solomon Islands… and beyond.
When I was a youngster Mum and Dad would bundle up my two older brothers and oldest sister (youngest sister was still just a twinkle) along with our short legged, black and white dog, Boy, and we would – with great excitement and anticipation, be taken night-time fishing. Under the cloak of darkness and the drone of the seagull outboard, we would motor the short distance from our bay in Chelsea, into the reflection of the city’s lights and towards the Auckland Harbour bridge.
Dad would anchor our little Mullety, Terina, between two of the huge concrete columns, under the far side of the harbour bridge. Under the light from the Tilly lamp hung in the rigging, the big kids were allowed to sit on the front deck, we would take up our make shift wooden fishing poles with string line and a small piece of torn white rag, sometimes with a ball of dough attached and dangle it into the water until one of the frenzied yellow tail below took a hold.
Then the four fishing poles would be flung simultaneously into the air. Boy dog barking, four kids squealing in delight, flashings of silver and yellow, fish catapulted through the air. Some would fall on the decks, some flung too far – falling back into the water on the other side of the boat.
There was much scrambling to untangle lines and re-launch them once again. All under the long dark shadows and echoes of the large concrete structure of the harbour bridge above. Slimy and stinky and into the bucket they went, where they could be retrieved later. Some fish were lucky and flipped back into the sea. This went on ’til we had exhausted ourselves, and Mum and Dad, or we splashed the vulnerable Tilly lamp breaking the lens. Plunged into semi-darkness we would have to go home.
I don’t remember walking up the track from the beach to home. I think Dad had probably carried me since I was the youngest at that time.
The here & now
As time ticks by, George and I are fast approaching ten years at the Whangateau Traditional Boat Yard. We have been quietly and diligently taking our turn at caring for the yard and maintaining it to its original state.  

           
Many of the photos featured by Alan are familiar to some already, but for the “newbies”, George and I, just the two of us, restore small wooden craft, up to thirty plus feet. Well that is between maintaining the slipway for the local fishing fleet and other recreational boats. I also take on paid boat building work. The money made from this is quickly dissolved back into the boat yard and the project boats we maintain and restore on site.
Many folk driving past the boatyard on the nearby road, see the wooden spars in the creek, they appear at our door in pure delight at what they have found. It is a “living maritime museum” some say or it takes them back to the smells of their grandfather’s sheds. The smells of linseed, oil based paints and freshly cut timber, linger in the old building.
For a long time I felt a need to protect the little yard, as most know it was at threat of being demolished. However the yard, boathouse, workshop and the wooden craft that have refuge here, have found their own way out there and all who stumble upon it endears the yard.
George’s wonderful fleet of restored planked Z’dys is indeed special and the other restored wooden craft are a hit with ever-popular Regattas. Many thanks go to Bud Nalder for donating a sewing machine and the materials and time for schooling and personally making sails for the small craft we have restored.
Russell Ward, the skipper of the steamboat SV Romany still has a berth here for Romany and sometimes the boat yard is graced by steam.
Visitors are welcome to the yard. We do ask that you mind your footing as you move about both in the shed and surrounds, as this is still a functioning, traditional boat yard.
I’m sorry there are not a lot of Laughing Lady photos but its a tight fit in the shed 🙂 but as work progresses I’ll send more to Alan.
Keep checking in here at waitematawoodys as we will be posting more news from the around the yard soon.”
 
 
 

Dean Barker chatting about sailing on the Waitemata

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Dean Barker chatting about sailing on the Waitemata

Watch Dean Barker chat about sailing on the Waitemata

video link ex Classic Boat UK

This short (8min) video features Dean Barker down at the CYA’s Heritage Landing marina at Silo Park talking about his passion for sailing & the Waitemata Harbour. Some great shots of a few of our classic fleet, & yes it is also an ad for Team NZ sponsor Camper, there were just too many shoe shots for it not to be 🙂

click blue link to play

AC sailor Dean Barker on his classic yacht in Auckland, NZ: Video

Cyvette

CYVETTE

details & photos ex Sea Spray April 1962 edition, supplied by Ken Ricketts

Built for Mr Doug Ellis of Northcote, by Dave Jackson, she is 30′ 6″ long, 9′ 6″ beam & draws approx 3′. She was built in a shed adjacent to the northern Harbour Bridge approaches, at that time, which was reported to have been quite historical & used by Bill Couldrey & before him Bob Brown, designer of the Z-Class, in days gone by.

She was originally powered by a 100hp Scripps marinised Ford V8 driving a 20×18,  five bladed propeller through a 2 to 1 reduction gear.

She is single skin full length Kauri with Tanekaha timbers deck beams & coamings with extra trim in Mahogany.  She sleeps 6.

In the photo above Mrs Ellis is pictured christening Cyvette..

Harold Kidd Update

Dave Jackson built CYVETTE to his 1957 design for LADY BEV which he built for himself and kept for many years. CYVETTE was later renamed BONAVENTURE.
Dave built a huge number of boats in the Sulphur Beach shed in which Bob Brown had built many craft before he drowned trying to save a child in the early 1930s Brown built a number of mullet boats, ARETHUSA and designed and built the first Zeddies. After his death, Bill Couldrey took over the yard and built all those great keel yachts and launches there. Dave Jackson took over the yard when he set up on his own after leaving Collings &  Bell. Mrs Brown still owned the site. Ernie Seager also operated his marine engineering business from the yard alongside Dave.

17-04-2016  Could Cyvette be Bon Voyage ?
photo & details ex Ken Ricketts

Bon Voyage is based at Gulf Harbour & is powered by an Iveco 6 cyl diesel & has been owned by Richard Barrington for a around a year. He bought her as Bon Voyage off Keith Williams & believes she was built around 1960 & could be originally have been Cyvette.

Keith Williams told Ken he had her from c.2000-2001 & sold her to Richard B. a little over a year ago & she was at Gulf Harbour when he bought her. She was called Bon Voyage & also had the  Iveco at that time he bought her. Keith can’t recall who he bought her off & thinks he bought her as result of a sign in the boats window. He recalls the previous owner was working in Albany at the time & thinks he may have lived in East Coast Bays.

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