Ngaro 4sale

NGARO

Ngaro was designed /built in 1952 & launched in 1953 by Roy Lidgard (Lidgard Ship Yard) in Smelting House Bay Kawau Island. She is 14.78m LOA / 3.88m beam & draws 1.4m.. She is a solid old girl with double diagonal 1/2″ kauri & 1″ longitudinal planks & bronze riveted.  Powered by twin Ford 120hp Lemman’s that were installed in 1965.

Her ‘newish’ owners returned Ngaro to the water last week at Gulf Harbour after a new coat of paint, top & bottom. They only had good things to say about Mike Vitali & his team at One10 Painters, the finished job looks very sharp.
While a few of us classic owners are a little gun shy of travel lifts, the boys at Gulf Harbour would be one of the best operators around, they used four slings on Ngaro. As further proof of their skill – the Tino Rawa Trust has recently hauled out half its classic fleet at Gulf Harbour.

Now back to Ngaro – The owners would like to know more about her past & view any photos that might be out there. So woodys what do you know?

The b/w photos (below) are the only early (possibly launch day) photos they have.

I have featured Ngaro before on ww – she is rather nice – click the link below to be wow’ed 🙂

Ngaro 4sale

Update 24-08-2018 Ngaro out again for some TLC at Gulf Harbour

500,000 Views

500,000 VIEWSA big day on waitematawoodys today – people have viewed waitematawoodys.com 1/2 million times.

In the last 18 months waitematawoodys.com has grown into a wonderful classic wooden boat community. You are all a big part of that with your comments, stories & photos sent in & I would like to thank you all for being helping make ww so special. One of the best buzzes is when we connect the dots between people & boats – ww has put a smile on many a face , young & old & I get very cool feedback & have meet some truly inspiring people. All this makes the time spent pulling together unique stories everyday worthwhile. I hope you have enjoyed the ride & hang-on-in-there for the next 500,000 views. Alan Houghton

Some facts:

Best Day: 4509 views – the Whangateau Traditional Boats Open Day feature. view here https://waitematawoodys.com/2014/05/05/whangateau-traditional-boat-regatta-yard-open-day-part-1/

Worst Day:  4 views – that was Day One & given so many of you missed Day One – I have re-posted the photo of Lady Gay & Waitangi taken by myself at the 2013 CYA Classic Yacht Regatta, below.

Some Stats:
1st Person to log-on & comment – Chris Leech (Castaway)
2nd – Steve Horsley (Ngatira)
3rd –  Rick McCay (Luana)
4th –  Baden Pascoe (John Dory)
5th –  Russell Ward (Romany)
6th –  John Wicks (Sirena)
7th –  Colin Pawson (Marinus)
8th –  Roger Guthrie
9th –  Harold Kidd (Romance II)
10th – Peter Mence (Jenanne)

Most Prolific Followers:
# 1 A visitor from Hawkes Bay
# 2 Harold Kidd (harold531harold)
# 3 Nathan Herbert (Nath)
# 4 Ken Ricketts
# 5 Murray Deeble
# 6 Pam Cundy (whangateautraditionalboats)
# 7 Russell Ward (vintagesteamer)

Whose Reading ww:
Many NZ but there are followers all over the world – see yesterdays viewer countries below –

Why are we doing all this?
Well waitematawoodys.com was founded upon a desire to record the history of our classic wooden boats, the craftsman who built them & characters that owned & crewed on them. Archiving the information on these magnificent craft ensures they remain a part of our maritime history for future generations.

Along the way we hope to empower you to tell us the stories about the classic wooden boats you have rubbed up against in your life & your experiences around them, through photos & words.

Remember – at waitematawoodys, its all about wooden boats.

THETIS (II) & The Lane Motor Boat Co.

THETIS (II) &  Building Motor Boats at The Lane Motor Boat Company

thanks to current owner Paul Harris & indirectly Max Carter for photo & details

Thetis was built by the Lane Motor Boat Company in 1955. In a 2004 note to Chris McMullen, Max Carter describes the ‘process’ i.e. like all LMBC boats they came off a model. A solid 1/2 model was carved, usually 3/4″ to the foot – a convenient scale. All these Lane models were unfortunately most likely destroyed when the Panmure office (Riverview Road) & workshop burnt down.

In terms of design style – Max commented that American magazines like ‘Yachting’, ‘MotorBoat & Rudder were always lying around & inspiration for Thetis may have come from these & past models on display.

It worked like this (Max Carters words) – “a solid half model was built from a block of kauri & once the modeler was satisfied, the profile & deck line were penciled around onto the ‘plan’. After an assured waterline & the mould station intervals had been marked onto the model a saw kerf was made part way into the model. Pieces of stiff thin card were rough cut & inserted into the kerfs – a pencil run a around the section & the centre line, deck line & assumed waterline marked on. The card was then very carefully trimmed to the section outline & the section transferred to the ‘plan’.”

The only people at Lanes (at that time) that could calculate the volume off the ‘plan’ was Dick Hart & Max, they got the sections by triangulation. Max was taught how to do this & other basic calculations by Sandy Sands at Seacraft, were Max had been apprenticed.

The Thetis model was craved by Peter Parsons from a block of kauri during breaks. The ‘brains trust’ would pass comments like – ‘more flare’, ‘less tumble home’ etc & if Peter agreed he would scrape a little off a little with a piece of broken window glass & glass paper. They used to have an old mirror there & they would place the models on it to see the effect of both sides – moving it around to see it from all angles.

At the time Max worked for LMBC the yard consisted of an old tin shed, which was the office, lunch room, toilet & joinery shop all in one. There was no road down to the lower shop set into the riverbank, the only way to get there was by a narrow winding path or by water. Materials had to be slid down the path. Max recalls sliding the Grey Marine engines down the hill, knowing that if they got it wrong & they were damaged they would all be sacked. In 1955 everything was still in short supply & you needed an import licence, the Butlands seemed to have no trouble sourcing Thetis’s engines.

LMBC only had a table saw, a band saw, thicknesser & buzzer. The only portable tools being a disc grinder & a few electric drills. Most holes were drilled by hand. Hulls were built right side up & cleaned off by hand plane, blade scrapper & long board (a long & arduous job).

Thetis was built in the shed but they lofted it on plywood in the Anglican Church hall across the road. Like all Lane boats they built on shadow moulds so they could trim a bit off or pack the moulds.
Thetis was single skin, the rule being 1/32″ per foot for planking so it was probably 1 3/8″ thick. They would hold the planks to the moulds with temporary screws & place the steam bent spotted gum timber inside & drive the fastenings while hot (really hard work).

Launching were always an exciting time because no one knew the weight of the vessel & everyone had an opinion of where the hull would float & trim. Once launched they would measure the free board at the stem, stern & amidships & work out the weight.

Max recalls at the launching there was a big crowd gathered including a lot of ladies from the Navy League, Ray Pateman was to work the winch & the rest of the yard workers were to stay in the background to retrieve the cradle & any wayward blocks floating down the river. All workers were issued with white overalls for the day & given strict instructions on what to do & to behave. The bottle was broken & Thetis duly launched down the ways when Rays white overall got caught in the winch & ripped his clothes off – everyone thought that was a even greater event than the launching.

Note: at this time, the order of seniority at Lanes (Max’s memory) was Peter Parsons – foreman, Ray Pateman – leading hand, Dick Hart, Clarence Thorpe, Russell Philpot, Trevor Ford, Roy Deane, Bill Bailey, Max Carter, apprentices were Jimmy Emptage, Bob Ryan, Gary Linkhorn & Arthur Ellis.

An amusing tale from Max Carter – Lanes used to contract painters who came & went as the job progressed. One day one of the painters was limping & had his forearm in plaster. When questioned on what happened he replied he had been on a scaffold painting the outside of the city morgue when a guy in a white coat lent out of the window & asked “Do you want a hand?” & to his reply “Yes”, passed him a severed hand, with the result he stepped back off the scaffold & fell.

Also attached of interest, sent in by Scott Taylor, son of the broker – Mac Taylor –  is the 1964 sale papers when Jack Butland sold Thetis to Dr. Jefcoate Harbutt for 13,350 pounds, a lot of money in those days. In chat with Harold Kidd it appears that on APYMBA records Jack Butland sold the boat to G Robertson, maybe they did not inform the APYMBA of the sale & Harbutt was missed out on the records?
As an aside – the present owner, Paul Harris,  knew Dr Harbutt as he flew him & his family to the Harbutt farm at the bottom end of Waiheke in the 1960’s & Paul lived up the road from Mac Taylor in Devonport –  its a small world we live in.

I hope I have assembled & retold these ‘tales’ accurately – if not I’m sure someone will pull me up & correct me 🙂

New photos ex Ken Ricketts 15/09/2014

26-04-2018 UPDATE

Ken Ricketts reports that having recently spoken with Thetis’s owner that 
the 2 in line, 6 cyl, 4-cycle, 120hp Gray Marine engines, installed in 1960 (still there today) are a very rare model & type. They were manufactured during WWII for the American forces & could possibly be the only 2 in NZ. The owner believes her original owner Jack Butland in the later 1950’s probably reconditioned, or war surplus imported them. 
Ken commented that until now, the only 6 cyl, in line, Gray Marine diesel engines he had heard of, were the 2-cycle, Gray Marine conversion of the 671 Detroit series.

Below are 2 photos of the manufacturers handbook.

Has anyone else ever head of them?

 

Esme

ESME

details & photos from Harold Kidd & Ken Ricketts

Esme was built by Joe Slattery for Henry Allen in 1921. He owned her in the 1920’s>1930’s. The photo above is from the early 1930’s after Allen raised her cabin top and put on a dodger. Hopefully one of the ww followers can ID some of the children on board.

More info here https://waitematawoodys.com/2013/09/29/esme/

Below is a raw photo essay in how our classics were ‘updated’ over a short period (approx. 10yrs). click to enlarge.

As Launched

1st Update


2nd Update

07-04-2017 Photo below ex Ken Ricketts

ESME - 1920's

 

Rosemary II

ROSEMARY II

In Mondays RNZYS post there was talk that the launch in the top right of photo 2 (above but small, click to enlarge) could be Rosemary II the 1946 Shipbuilders Supercraft – sister ship to Lady Eileen, Rakanoa & Mahara.

The great photo above of Rosemary II was sent to me by Nathan Herbert ex the National Library.
Whats says the collective brains trust? For whats its worth, I think not – not enough main cabin windows & no port holes between the aft cabin rectangular windows. I could be wrong, I often am 🙂

Todays post will have Russell Ward salivating 🙂

To read more on Rosemary II & see ‘recent’ photos check out this ww link

Rosemary II

Russell Ward input

Arrrgh! I’ll go blind! Styleeee!
Yep Rosemary ll in her prime in this and the upper part of the pic of the aerial view of the trot of boats in Westhaven. Ken, I can see Rakanoa in the window/ports arrangement aft and in a lot of the details. When I used to row past Rosemary in Westhaven in the early-mid ’60s she did not have those fashion pieces aft of the wheelhouse and the brightwork was rather severely dark. She was always there and never opened up, just waiting -Just like Crossley and even less used.
Comparing the earlier pix with my Whangarei series of pictures you can see how much style her original layout had. Those aft fashion pieces just softened the profile of what is really quite a high wheelhouse that looks a bit bluff.
OK here is a thought for you style hounds. Compare Rosie’s styling in this pic with Ranui in her original guise -take that aft shed off her present appearance and voila -some similarity. Never say that the local people were out of touch with the latest trends.
Well, I always jokingly say that I spring out of bed in the early morning and feel rosie all over -if she will let me. Yes, Rosemary ll does it for me and I hope she is alive and well and, I hope, not now fitted with a frying bridge aft.

Comment from Neil Manthel
(Neil – you posted this comment in the photo section so it does not appear in the comments section, posted it here Alan H.)

As the teenage son of the first owner,Noël Manthel I can probably fill in any queries about the Rosemary 11. The maiden cruise was to the Bay of Islands but spent its early years in wellington with some memorable crossing of Cook Straits. The twin American Redwing 90hp petrol motors needed to work hard to get to the cruising speed of 10 knots.Your photo could have been taken in the Marlborough Sounds.regards Neil Manthel

Mystery Launch 10/09/2014

Mystery Launch 10/09/2014

photo ex Ken Ricketts

Anyone able to ID or attempt to ID this rather cute small motorboat. The photo was sent to me by Ken Ricketts so I suspect he knows more than he is letting on 🙂 but what say you on the origins of this one? Its a big ask as these motorboats were the ‘taxis’ of the inner gulf & a lot were built.

Impressive Line Up of Motorboats At The RNZYS

Impressive Line Up of Motorboats At The RNZYS

photos ex Nathan Herbert

Aerial view of the squadrons ‘old’ marina at Westhaven, a great line up of some of our classic launches –  how many can be ID’ed? Also interested in the date of the photos, must have been when owning a small motorboat (launch) was ‘ok’ at the squadron 🙂

Remember to click on the photos to enlarge

 

How not to sell a classic wooden launch – Huia

How Not To Sell A Classic Wooden Launch – Huia

List it on trademe BUT

1. Don’t mention the vessels name
2. Don’t mention the designer/builder
3. Don’t mention the make of engine
4. Say it has history but make no mention of it

UPDATE Thanks to ww follower Zach Matich we now know its Huia, built by Demmings & powered by a Ford 60hp. She was previously residing on the Kaipara. More details & photos here https://waitematawoodys.com/2013/05/06/huia/

Lady Jule

LADY JULE RIP

photos & details ex Kerry Clarkson (owner)

Lady Jule was built in 1939 for the Pollard family ( Henderson & Pollard ?) of Auckland by Dick Lang. I understand that she was built just before Lady Margaret (Peter Boardman’s stunning Dick Lang launch).
Kerry Clarkson purchased her in 2008 and along with a friend brought her down the coast from Houhora to Clevedon in August of that year.
She is 38ft plus duck board  making her 40ft LOA. Her beam at the widest point is 11ft 4inches making her a very beamy old girl for her age. She is an extremely seaworthy and strongly built  vessel of single 1.1/4 kauri plank carvel construction.
She is powered by a 6 cylinder 120hp Lees Marine Ford, installed new in 1976, and will cruise all day at 18-1900 rpm. (8-8.5 knots).
Currently hauled out for some rib sistering, recaulking, anti-foul & hull paint job. I understand her owners have relocated outside of Auckland & she is for sale & is very well priced. Interested parties could contact Kerry on rooclarkson@gmail.com or on 0274574 756 .

Harold Kidd update

Sorry to rain on this man’s parade too, but that history is not right. LADY JULE was indeed built by Dick Lang in 1939 but not for the Pollards. It was a tumultuous year with the outbreak of war so launch building news was not high priority in the newspapers. My best guess is that she was built for Gordon Hunter and was his first boat. Gordon’s son Don provided that info. Gordon sold her in 1944 to buy ROYAL SAXON. I think the purchaser was Edward Morrison of Herne Bay. The Frankham brothers, Jack & Stan bought her in the early 1960s and kept her until c1984. Their brother-in-law Noel Pollard (of Henderson & Pollard) crewed on her extensively during that time and again when his mate Jack Allen of L.R. Allen Ltd had her briefly. That’s the only Pollard connection, and it’s extremely tenuous.
Her original engine was a petrol Buda (for which my father was agent)

23-07-2016 Update – Lady Jule wrecked at Rocky Bay, Waiheke Island

Very sad to report that on July 19th 2016 Lady Jule broke free from her mooring in Rocky Bay & was wrecked on the rocks. See link to story below

http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/82376436/waiheke-couple-left-in-tears-after-gale-sinks-new-home

26-07-2016 Update

Photos of the ‘wreck’ below. When first reported on ww there were no photos available, the below have now appeared, perhaps the term wreck is a little too severe, some (like Jason Prew) would consider that hull a good candidate for restoration 😉

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Lady Jule wreck2

 

Mansion House Bay c1947

MANSION HOUSE BAY c.1947
photo ex Ken Ricketts ex Allan/Coggan family

From left to right we have Tiromoana, Awarua & most likely Movarie. All 3 have been on ww before so use the search box to see more on each launch.

Not wanting to get start a lengthy debate, but in a discussion with Russell Ward the other day he commented how a varnished wheelhouse isn’t as obtrusive as a white painted one, he is right (he normally is), they just look so much better & show off the designers lines. I understand the pro’s & cons, I myself have a painted lady, but with some of the advances in bright finishes on the market these days, hopefully we will see more of the ‘as built’ 😉