Sanders Cup Yachts – Sailing Sunday

Jellicoe Class Sanders Cup Boats

Sanders Cup Yachts – Sailing Sunday
photos from ex Mac Taylor Collection

The above photo shows three Jellicoe Class Sanders Cup boats ( X28 – X34 – X45) in full flight on Auckland’s Waitemata Harbour. I have included below the original photos as the resolution weakens on the cropped version above.

Harold Kidd Input

X28 is DESIRE built by Trot Willetts for Ed Croad in 1948ish. Never outstanding.
X34 is BETTINA built by Sam Mason for himself in 1946. She won the Sanders Cup in 1948.
X45 is WHITE HEATHER built by Jim Young for himself in 1949. She won the Sanders Cup in 1949.

My guess is that this is the Auckland Sanders Cup trials of 1949.

Robin will probably be more encyclopaedic than me.

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29-03-2016 Input from Jim Young
Confirming photo probably taken in Nov 1948  during the Sanders Cup selection trials.  X45 White Heather J.Young, L.( Wagger)  Riley, .R Lamb , F.(Snow ) Swanberg. All of Northcote.  X34  Bettina,  Sam Mason of Stanley Bay, X28 Desire Eddie Croad of Pt Chevalier.

Carina – Sailing Sunday

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CARINA – Sailing Sunday
photos ex Ken Ricketts

Photos above are of the yacht Carina hauled out at Gulf Harbour, the ‘Gypsy’ sail/boom cover is a little confusing. What do we know about her & is she (hopefully) out for a make-over?

Speaking of makeovers – Mondays ww post showcases the stunning re-birth of a classic launch.

Input from Graham Russell – owner

Sorry for the confusion, she is in fact the Tabuteau designed C18, but sporting Gypsy’s pre collision cover ,which John Pryor has kindly lent me. She, Carina, had got to the stage where she could have been the major sponsor of the Coromandel Mussell festival, much to my shame.  With the help, which is such an inadequate word in terms of the effort, of a number of good friends, we achieved the impossible and stripped, caulked and repainted her, in just over 5 weeks. What was a daunting and overwhelming exercise became a wonderful example of what can be done by a energetic team. Peter and Ron Mence, Mike McGuire from the Marina, Tony Frost from work, my wife Julie catering, colour consultant Daughter Abi, beers from the in laws, motivation from Iain Forsyth ( thanks for the very informative discussion on terodo and the sleepless nights that followed). And one very special person, Jeff Cook. ( Huge thanks to Sally for sparing him). A true godsend for Carina, as Jeff’s skill as a Devonport Naval Base trained boat builder has made her good for another 60 years. Jeff raked,primed, caulked and puttied the seams. Offered advice and show us the techniques.Twisting the cotton, hammering it to just the right feel, mixing the special concoction of special recipe putty, and showing us how to fill the seams. It was a hard 5 weeks but very rewarding. And despite the offer of a chain gang from the skipper and crew of a K Class that shall remain nameless, but starts with a T and ends in an A, and has a L and M in the name, she only leaked for 30 mins when she went in.The bilge pump has run once on auto in the following week and she is drier than she has been in all my ownership of her. Admittedly a few seams are showing but the plan is to have her out in 6 months time and dress them up. It has been wonderful lesson in what can be achieved, and for me the realisation that traditional boat building is art, science, patience, hard work and humour. And after watching Jeff work, something, that no matter how much you read about it, there is no substitute for the skill of a properly trained traditional boat builder. Thanks everyone.

Vagrant – Sailing Sunday

VAGRANT – Sailing Sunday
photos from Duncan Elliot, details from Harold Kidd & Robin Elliott. (edited by Alan H)

I was contacted recently by Duncan advising that he had purchased Vagrant off trademe last year & was looking for details on her history.
She had sunk due to a 100mm x 60mm hole in the transom below the bolt on the drop keel box . When Duncan started the repair he a little surprised to find that someone had filled the area with  epoxy from a tube and no fibre. Subsequently this failed & popped out resulting in the trip to Davey Jones locker. Duncan did a temporary repair on the hole
& later cut out the old hole and scarfed a piece in and built a box around the existing box as this was too short i.e. does not go all the way down to the keel and deadwood.
Vagrant she is now back in the water and drawing about 5 litres a water a day. Duncan intends to take her out in a couple of months to do a total re-fit, doing the work myself as he is joiner by trade.

I contacted Harold Kidd & Robin Elliott and asked if they could provide some details on Vagrant for Duncan & true to form, they delivered 🙂
HAROLD
VAGRANT was built by Jack Greenhalgh in 1924 according to MBQ (pretty unreliable). My first hit on the boat is a shade before the 1926 AAR (which was certainly her first race).
She’s in the  list of N’s in NZA of 18/11/25 (as N7).
My guess is built by John/Jack Greenhalgh of Richmond Rd about late 1925 and owned probably with his brother Albert.

ROBIN
I first trip over Vagrant registered as N-7  in the 1926 Anniversary Regatta.
Owners details:
• A. Greenhalgh 1925?/26+?; P. Churton 1932/+?
• On Manukau 1928, registered as number`19′ with Manukau Y & MB Club
• Pennant? 6/10/32: Purchased by Churton who intends to use her for cruising only.
• Re-appears post-war registered as N-17 c1945
• Owner Cyril Hill early 40’s? E.L. (Ernie) Beaver 1945+? D.A.K. Taylor 1949+?; Dick Still 1962?; D.J. Mason 1964/65+?
• Dimensions 1949: 20’x 20’x 9’x 2’10”, 330 sqft gaff rigged, 1ton ballast
• Listed as ‘Unregistered’ 1970
• 1990 on beach, North Harbour Kawau.?
 
There is one photo of her in the Auckland Museum Bond Collection, negative number PH-NEG-C37485 dated 1st February 1947.

Robin helped paint her in 1963 when Dick Still owned her and she was still in gaff at that stage (Or was she?). Dick Still lives in Pakuranga and may have some photos of her from that time.  If anyone knows Dick, give him a nudge re any photos 09-5348158

LOOK OUT for Mondays post  – its on the Lake Rotoiti (Sth Island) antique & classic wooden boat festival, lots of cool boats 😉

Typhoon – Sailing Sunday

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TYPHOON – Sailing Sunday
photos ex Kerry Pearson, details ex Lin Pardey via Harold Kidd

Typhoon she was built by Fellows and Stuart Shipyard, Los Angeles Harbour, probably 1938 or so, & has been moored in North Cove at Kawau Island for 10+ years, slowly deteroiating. Many have offered advice that due to her fastenings (galvanised nails) the surrounding timber was so badly rotten the vessel was beyond saving. On top of this her cabin sides and deck structures are also rotting.

Sometimes there is a fairy godmother out there & Lin reports that she has been purchased by one of the Kawau Island ferry skippers & he processes  skills & experience to look at her & decide if its do-able or just best to save all the good hardware for the next project. Will be interesting to near the outcome.

Any one able expand on her history?

Okura Gigs – Sailing Sunday

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OKURA GIGS
photos & details ex Darren Arthur

We did a post on ww a little while ago about ‘Seabird’ dinghies & this generated chat & subsequent comments about the ‘Okura Gig’. This sparked Darren to contact his wife’s uncle – Dennis Hart, who with his late brother Ray ran Hart Brothers Marine and were behind the Okura Gigs. Darren encouraged Dennis to document their history.
Darren asked me that given that the boats we not wood, was it a potential ww story – after a quick peek at the photos – I replied that there was more than enough wood & bronze to get the ww tick 😉

I have published Dennis’s story below word for word, its a great tale & combined with the above collection of older & recent photos is a cracker read. Enjoy 🙂

THE OKURA GIG:  A Brief History By Dennis Hart

Background

During the late 1800’s the area at Silverdale now known as Millwater included the Grut (pronounced Grew) farm which had access to the Orewa Estuary. Mr Grut had a 10 foot kauri clinker rowing boat, understood to have been built by Bailey & Lowe at Sulphur Point, Northcote. The boat was mostly used for net fishing. Charles St.Croix Grut and Alec Grut later inherited the farm and continued farming until the 1960’s ?

Dennis believes Croix and his wife Merle had the 38ft Wollacott design yacht Iorana, built by Don Wood at his yard in the Orewa Estuary. However the memory can play tricks over time & Dennis would be interested to learn if he is correct in this. The couple then in their late 60’s were the first Weiti Yacht Club members to circumnavigate the globe.

Croix brought the boat to my brother Ray and I at Hart Bros Marine  in the mid to late 70’s for a full restoration to its original configuration as the 70 plus years had taken their toll. We duly completed the ‘no expenses spared’  job resulting in a very pretty and sound rowing boat. We negotiated a deal whereby we could use the boat as a plug and take a mould from it in order to produce the boat in fibreglass , We made no charge for the restoration returning it to Croix and Alex with a fibreglass replica rowing boat each for their general use. The original boat was retired.

I tried to locate the original boat and was told by Croix that he had entrusted it to a gentleman who had promised to donate it to the Maritime Museum. On enquiring there I was told that no such boat had been received. Croix Passed away in November 2012 aged 94.

Building the OG

Because of the tumblehome created by the very pretty wineglass transom the mould had to be in two parts. The original boat had no centrecase so a slot was cut in the keel and a case was moulded in -situ at the same time as fitting the buoyancy thwarts and stern benches . A galvanised steel swinging plate was hinged at the top forward point, raised and lowered  by a stainless wire. After release from the mould Kwila slats were fitted to the thwarts, the inner and outer gun’les were copper riveted together, the thwart  and lodging knees fixed in place followed by the remainder of the fit-out . Two rowing positions were provided, the forw’d pair provided fitting for the side stays.

The rig

The sails were kept as traditional as possible by using ‘tanbark’ coloured sail cloth and braided lacings. The oregon spars were made so that they would fit inside the boat, when not in use. This worked well as a handy sized main was set with the peak well above the mast top. This, coupled, with a boom that overhung the transom and a jib tacked to a short sprit,  giving plenty of sail.  Many of the fittings  that controlled the running rigging (cleats and blocks, were made by hand or modified from Harken traditional range. All other fittings were sourced from the depths of Fosters basement or were bespoke by us of copper, brass or bronze. The gaff jaws were covered in leather. Rope sheets were a light tan poly. The gaff halyard was rove to a bridle to make setting the main more simple.

Development

Like the old harbour ferries the OG has a balanced waterline with fine ends so does not drag water at the transom as the boats bottom lifts the transom clear of the water at the stem of the wineglass.  Fit-out of these boats was kept to an affordable minimum at the time.  As production continued we made some minor modifications and improvements, i.e. separate peak and throat halyards to give better shape control to the main, reefing points and tackle for the main, a change from cane rings to lacing on the luff.  The rudder is if fixed shape with a swivelling tiller, its bottom edge does not extend below the keel line which allows safe beaching.

The sail plan was easy enough to balance on paper.  In practice it showed a slight weather-helm  in fresh airs which was easily adjusted by swinging the centreplate back,  flattening or easing the sails.

Production

The Okura Gig became a ’boutique’ activity.  As a result of the boat tax being imposed in 1979 we reduced the size and scope of our business and closed our fibreglass manufacturing operations and moved our boat shop into the mould shop. We had built about 55 OG’s between 1978 and 1981.  The moulds were taken by Dinghy Developments who resumed production giving the OG a Seabird name.  I believe that they took their version to USA west coast boat shows where they were warmly received. I have no idea how many more were built.

I have  two OG’s,  No. 41 and No 49.  One had spent about 35 years in a wet boatshed at Lake Rotoiti,  it required a complete grind off of the osmosis damage before refitting.  The other is our long time family boat. I have refitted them both to a much higher standard than the originals. They are currently in my shed at Whangaparaoa.  I still sail OG49 occasionally and still find it enjoyable. It really romps sailing just off the wind with the peak halyard eased . OG 41 is too pretty to put in the water. It would make a fine centre piece in a large lounge.

Croix Grut  got to see OG’s 41 & 49 restored and fully rigged before he passed away. Photo below.

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Foot note:

I was fortunate to have served my apprenticeship at the Devonport Naval Dockyard commencing in 1958.  Marty Martinengo was in the same intake as I, as was Denis Cantell, in 1958. We have enjoyed  a very solid friendship ever since, as we do with many of the apprentices who were indentured before or since us.   The Dockyard provided a very traditional training in all aspects of boatbuilding and shipwrighting  . It was a very competitive environment with up to 14 apprentices at any one time. My brother Ray Served his time at Lidgard’s and Lane’s before moving to Max Carter. He  moved to Whangaparaoa about 1968 where he started boatbuilding.  I joined him  in 1972.

Below is an article reproduced from Sea Spray magazine Sept 1979

Sea Spray Article Sept '79 p1.pdf

Sea Spray Article Sept '79 p2.pdf

Quest II – Sailing Sunday

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QUEST II – Sailing Sunday
photo & details ex Dean Wright

The above photos were taken by Dean in August 2012, at the time Quest II had been moored in Opito Bay for a couple of seasons.
What she is & where she is now is a mystery – anyone able to contribute ?

ps I know I’m stretching the sailing angle but there is some canvas on her 😉

Kotiri B20 – Sailing Sunday

KOTIRI B20 – Sailing Sunday

Today’s post is an amazing story – firstly Nathan Herbert tipped me off that a 1897 Logan yacht was in a boat shed in the Auckland suburb of Herne Bay & had not seen the light of day (or water) for over 30 years. Next thing I’m on a RIB at Westhaven with the son (Don Webster) & grandson (Nick Webster) of the gent (Blair Webster) that purchased Kotiri back in 1947 & locked the boat shed doors sometime c.1986 & we were heading around to Herne Bay to view the ‘extraction’ of Kotiri from her boat shed. We were joined by Don’s younger brother Charles & a film crew from TV3 that were filming the event as part of an upcoming (semi-related) progamme. The day was a big boys dream – tug boats, barges, cranes, old shed full of cool stuff & the odd yummy mummy watching from the beach 🙂
It was a treat to watch a team of pro’s doing something that is beyond what most of us could do.
Some details on Kotiri – LOA 40′, LWL 28′, Beam 8’6″

Also in the shed was very cute dinghy / runabout that will be a winter project for Nick.

Below is some history on Kotiri & how she came to be sitting on a Boat Haulage transporter on-route to Peter Brookes yard.

Details below & photos above ex Classic Yacht Charitable Trust

Kotiri was designed and built by Logan Brothers in 1897 (launched 18th October 1897) at the height of the boat design and racing rivalry period between the Logans and the Bailey Brothers. The Baileys launched Meteor in the same month, both boats being built to the 30ft linear rating of the time.

Kotiri passed through many owners, including a period in Wellington, where she was renamed Kotiri II to differentiate from a smaller 30 footer of the same name. She was owned for a time by Laurence “Bruce” McCallum, the son of R H McCallum of Marine Parade Devonport who owned the family business Winate and Co based in lower Queen Street opposite the Central Post Office. Bruce MCCallum died in a bomber crash over Belgium on a mission to Cologne in 1943. The McCallum’s won the Devonport Yacht Club’s Duder cup in 1941 & 1942. The trophy is still held by a family member Tom McCallum of Pakuranga. Tom is also caretaker for another small trophy inscribed “RNZYS Kotiri 1939”.

Kotiri was purchased by Blair Daniel Webster in 1947 who converted her to marconi rig c1949. She was still sailing in 1952 but Blair layed her up in his boat shed at at 75 Sarsfield St Herne Bay in 1953 as her decks were leaking badly. In 1961 Blair commissioned R L (Bob) Stewart to draw up plans for conversion to a K class. From 1962 to 1968 Blair, with his closest friend J S G (Jock) McLanachan and a boat builder Jim Dennerley of Coxes Creek, worked on the comversion by increasing the height of the freeboard by 3 planks (approx. 9 inches); fully rib her; add new Bob Stewart “Patiki” style coamings; cut off rotten counter stern and build tuck. Boat shed ramp and railway tracks were laid for her ultimate return to the water. In November 1968 Kotiri was relaunched and moored on pile moorings at Westhaven. A second masthead rig and used sails were subsequently purchased. The boat shed at Herne Bay was regularly used for cleaning and antifouling haulouts. Kotiri sailed on rare occasions over the following years. Circa 1985 she sailed in a Classic Yacht regatta and by the late 80’s she had “retired” to the boat shed.

Blair Webster passed away on the 16th August 2000 and left Kotiri to his eldest son Donald. After 66 years ownership in the Webster family Kotiri was gifted to the Classic Yacht Charitable Trust on 14th March 2013 by Donald Webster. The token sum of 20 cents passed hands, for which 10 cents “change” was given, to mark the change of ownership.

Having been stored in a sound shed, over water, with good airflow, her hull was preserved in exceptionaly good order.

The Classic Yacht Charitable Trust are looking to raise funds to restore Kotiri to original sailing condition and preserve her for the long term enjoyment of New Zealander’s.

UPDATE 13-01-2019
WW has been contacted by Lesley Brennan those father, Lex Dowling, owned Kotiri in the mid 1960’s.
If anyone now related to the yacht would like the photo below – contact Lesley via email
alesley@actrix.co.nz
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Korowai – Sailing Sunday

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KOROWAI – Sailing Sunday
photos & details ex Ben Shields

WW has had an inquiry from Ben seeking information on the 1948 32′ Woollacott Korowai (F8). Ben thinks she is a ‘Mayfly’.

What do we know about her?

I’m currently at Lake Rotoiti for the Classic & Wooden Boat Parade weekend, look out early next week for some stunning photos 😉

Harold Kidd Input

Korowai was built by Shipbuilders Ltd in 1950 for Richard Rolphe Judd of 10 Cumberland Ave.
She was 31’6” x 9’x 4’9” which makes me think she was a MAY design.

Onehunga Beach 1954 – Sailing Sunday

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Onehunga Beach 1954  – Sailing Sunday
photo ex A. Turnbull Library via Historic NZ photos

This Whites Aviation photo from Feb 1954 shows an unidentified beach in Onehunga with Mangere Mountain in the background.
Given the number of young children playing in the water & the low number of adults I wonder if there was something else happening on the day e.g. group picnic etc.

Remember Folks Tomorrow is Auckland Anniversary Day Regatta, so dust off the boat & get out there. No boat? make your way to one of the many excellent harbour side vantage points across this city.
More details here  http://www.regatta.org.nz/

02-02-2016 Input from Bruce Pullan

The beach in this photo was further west than the beach that Ken has referred to. The beach in the photo was accessed from a drive off Beachcroft Ave near where Arthur Street and Pleasant Streets join onto Beachcroft (the towns gas tanks where near here also). The houses to the right of the trees in the photo were on Seacliff Ave, some of these houses were taken as well as the beach for the motorway. The MY&MBC had a marker bouy out from this beach it was referred to in the yacht club course sheets as Mill Bay. When the MY&MBC racing was moved to Mangere and before the new club house was built the patrol boats were moored here and layed up for winter with chocks on the beach where the children are swimming in this photo.

A Replica Scow – Sailing Sunday

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A Replica Scow  – Sailing Sunday
photos ex Alan Sexton

Alan took the above photos in Nagle Cove, Great Barrier Island last week, just before the wind started blowing.
The replica scow appears to be about 12m in length & is very well done, what do we know about her?