Any one know her fate?
Mystery Devonport Yacht
Lyttleton Basket Case – Kia Ora
On Nathan Herbert’s recent trip south, he spotted the above ‘yacht’ in Lyttleton. From her stern, it would appear she was named Kiaor or Kiaok – the last letter is part missing. Anyone able to tell us about her past?
What Happened To Yum Yum?
Woody Daniel Renall contacted me to say he had been fortunate to visit Neil Beken at his boat building spot in Beach Haven. Neil gave Dan a bunch of plans he had acquired for Dan’s yacht, Jonquil.
While there he showed Dan a picture of a yacht he restored in the 1990’s called Yum Yum, very similar to Gloriana. It was owned by someone in Wellington and was trucked up for a couple of classic races in Auckland.
Neil mentioned that Yum Yum had vanished and nobody had been able to track her down.
So woodys – can anyone shed some light on Yum Yum’s whereabouts & have a photo?
Harold Kidd Update – KIA ORA was designed by Prof R.J. Scott of the Engineering School at Canterbury and built for himself by Jack Collins of Lyttelton in November 1898 as a 5 rater cutter to replace an earlier 2 rater KIA ORA Collins owned. She was in the BRITANNIA/MOANA mould with a spoon bow. She was racing, later under a yawl rig, until the 1960s.
Very historic Lyttelton yacht in the same category as PASTIME.
YUM YUM and her Herreshoff inspiration is discussed in passing in my article on IDA in the November Boating NZ (plug)..
UNKNOWN YACHT WRECK – Sailing Sunday
Today’s post features two Tudor Collins photos of an unnamed yacht beached at Baddeleys Bay, on the Tawharanui Peninsula, photos ex the TC collection at the Auckland Museum emailed to me by Ken Ricketts.
Anyone able to ID the yacht & how she came to end up on the beach ?
Few things in life scare me – but I do have a thing about snakes – if it had of been me working on the electrics of this boat, an underpants change would have been on the cards 🙂 Click link below to watch the video
AK2177 – Sailing Sunday
The first photo above is one of my favorites, its from the Tudor Collins Auckland Museum collection & the location is possible Russell in the Bay of Islands. Emailed to me by Ken Ricketts.
Can we put a name to her & possibly some history ?
Remember the Classic Yacht & Launch Exhibition is on today – details below.
Harold Kidd Input
It would be good to get the place established and we could work back from that by matching known boats in the vicinity. The time period is 1928-1935 when registered fishing boats were issued with four figure numbers. I haven’t been able to find out why this occurred but it lasted only until c1935 when all boats were renumbered starting from (probably) 1 in each port.
All the registers have disappeared bar a couple, Mangonui (MGN) is the only one I’ve been able to get at the National Archives. Most were burnt in a Wellington archive fire. A pity because they contained an enormous amount of info on each boat and owner.
So you have to painstakingly build up a new register from evidence such as this. Tudor Collins probably photographed this scene for a newspaper where it may appear with a caption such as “the opening of the duck shooting season in the Far North”.
The boat is clearly a 24ft mullet boat of the working type,; it is important to find out her name to fill another blank in the fishing boat register.
Any clues out there?
p.s. the boat’s number is AK2177, an Auckland registration, which rather rules out a Far North site. Maybe just off George and Pam’s yard and workshop at Whangateau? That was Collins’ home patch anyway.
p.p.s. Pam Cundy has asked around the Leigh/Matakana area and the consensus is that it’s Whangateau all right. A strong possibility is that the mullet boat is IDAHO owned by Huru Ashton, according to his nephew W. Finnigan-Douglas. IDAHO was altered by Harvey & Lang in 1914 so there’s a strong chance they built her.
Okahu Bay ?- Sailing Sunday
photo from ex Mac Taylor Collection
The above photo shows a collection of yachts being rigged on Auckland’s Waitemata waterfront, my guess on the location would be Orakei / Okahu Bay . Anyone able to ID the class /division of the nearest yacht & the location?
Check into ww tomorrow – we will be visiting a boat shed for a sneak peek at a restoration of a special boat…………
Input from Robin Elliott
Ken is right with Hobson Bay I think, from the look of the number of moored boats out there.
The Hobson Bay boat sheds were completed in November 1939 and the wave screen he mentioned in front of them was added a few weeks later.
The main wave break across Okahu and Hobson bays, bits of which are still standing, was not added until the April/May1940.
Unless the angle is deceptive, I’m guessing the photo has been taken just before the short wave break was completed in front of the boatsheds.
The boats are mullet boats, probably 26’s from the number of crew .
It’s not Regatta Day 1940 because that was a howling gale.
My guess is that it’s Opening Day 25 November 1939 which was described as a perfect full sail breeze from the north east. Eight clubs combined for the day and had a jolly good time. 100 yachts took part. Racing started off Kings Wharf
Mystery Yacht – Sailing Sunday
photo ex Max Pike ex Auckland Weekly News (23 April 1930)
I’m sure the stick & rag woodys will be able to ID the above yacht, the only info I had was the caption which was something like ‘yacht off Freemans Bay preparing for race’.
Speaking of races I’m venturing over to the dark side today & crewing on Rainbow in the Ponsonby Cruising Club’s Vintage & Veterans race. Hopefully we will get some wind, I have been the kiss of death weather wise when aboard other classic yachts 🙂
Mystery Yacht – Sailing Sunday
photos via Ken Ricketts, source unknown.
The above yacht was built in 1955 to a Bert Woollacott design, on a property at the corner of Pukenui Rd & Manukau Rd Epsom & launched in 1955. Ken commented that she looks c42′ long & appears to be a good solid cruising yacht so perhaps ended up off- shore? Ken also suggested the name might be Ghost or Wolf?
Can anyone ID the vessel, confirm the builder & any of the people in the photos?
Not a great weekend for boating so while I was cleaning some muck from my fuel tanks, a few woodys headed down to the Whangamata Beach Hop – Rod Marler flying the ‘flag’ & if there was a god that Woody wagon (photo ex David Plummer) would be mine 🙂
Tui – Sailing Sunday
I have had to photoshop the above photo as there were a few visible clues.
So the question today is – whats the boat & why she it famous?
After she has been ID’ed I will supply more details on the how I received the photo 😉
Update: The above P-Class is in fact Tui, built in Auckland by David Marks in 1952 and given to Her Majesty the Queen with the suggestion that Prince Charles might like to learn to sail in her. She is presently on loan to the ex Royal yacht Britannia from Portsmouth Naval Base. The photo was sent to me by David Balderston who visited Britannia recently while on holiday.
19-10-2015 Photo below of Tui’s display card was sent in by Greg Fenwick
12-09-2017 Input from Christopher Deane
Last month when we were in Edinburg, Scotland we went for a tour on the Royal Britannia .
I must say it is a very interesting tour. The first Yacht I have been on which carries a Rolls Royce as standard equipment.
Another interesting find was this P Class sailing yacht Tui that was presented to the Queen, during her tour in 1953 .
As a bonus today click the link to view some eye candy from the Panerai Regatta in Cannes. Photos courtesy of Classic Yacht / Guido Cantini / Officine Panerai
Tight Racing – Sailing Sunday
photo ex Mac Taylor Collection
Asking woodys to ID the race would be a big ask 🙂 so maybe we just ask that we match the yacht names to the sail numbers. From L>R its – E34 / L18 / A11 / E21 / E11 / A16 / A2 / H6 / B20 .
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Mistletoe – Sailing Sunday
photo ex Jason Prew
Jason snapped the photo above in August 2015 in Tauranga Harbour. Can not be a lot of ‘these’ down there so hopefully one of the woodys will be able to ID her.
Harold Kidd Update – 16/09/2015
Fred Mann built two 24 footers called MISTLETOE. The give away really is the narrow stern which betrays her early build. This is said to be MISTLETOE I which Fred built in late 1904, first race Auckland Anniversary Regatta January 1905. MISTLETOE II was built in 1914 and had very similar lines.
Frankly I am undecided which of the two this one is. Some authorities reckon she’s the 1904 boat, some the 1914. The APYMBA registration of MISTLETOE (sic) as I7 recorded her as being built in 1911, which merely shows how much confusion there has been since the second MISTLETOE was built.
Whichever one she is, she’s another survivor of Mann’s excellent design and craftsmanship.
I did most of my early keel yacht sailing on Lincoln Wood’s Harrison Butler-designed and Mann-built MEMORY and was regaled by Linc with Mann stories (as were most of Devonport’s young water rats he took as crew).
The photo below was sent to me by Judith (Le Clerc) Wallath & is of a punt built in Whangarei for her brother Brian by their Dad, Godfrey Le Clerc. The picture was taken at Onerahi with Limestone Island in the background. The punt was made out of a salvaged board that had borer and planks from a wooden case. It was painted with tar from the gasworks but still leaked through the borer holes, and had a sail made from an ironing sheet, complete with iron-shaped scorch mark. Brian took it, against instructions, over to Limestone Island. His Dad removed a plank from the bottom until there was a promise to behave. Brian went on to become a champion P Class and Z Class sailor, and his sister (Judith) also sailed a P Class (on Hamilton Lake). Definitely a classic woody 🙂
Ngaio – Sailing Sunday
photo ex Nathan Herbert
Todays photos were taken in early Jan 2015 by Nathan & are from Tutukaka. The hauled out ‘yacht’ has an interesting set up – 2 masts + game poles 🙂
I have to say it looks a great spot to haul out.
Anyone able to shed some light on the boat?
No longer a mystery – its Ngaio, designed by Jim Mason in 1941 – photos below from Dean Wright
Harold Kidd Input
In case Ian doesn’t post, she was designed and built by Jim Mason at Grey Street, Whangarei from a half model and launched in 1941. She was partly mobilised in 1942 by NAPS and crewed by Jim Mason, skipper, Tom McKinnon, deputy skipper, and Jack Carpenter, Bob Baker, Peter Roberts and Ian Crawshaw. Her NAPS number was Z40.
These NAPS boats did a great job during wartime when German commerce raiders and minelayers were busy around New Zealand at the start and were followed by Jap submarines checking us out. The Whangarei boats were in the most likely place for trouble.
Input from owner & son of builder, Ian Mason
A following up on Harolds post on Ngaio,all correct I might add. She was built over a two year period. She is carvel planked in kauri over kowhai ribs and pohutukawa stem, stern and floors. Her first engine was a 6 cylinder Delage out of a car owned by my father. When it was replaced in 1957 by an air cooled Enfield they got more for the scrap than Dad originally paid for the car. When she was built kauri was 3 pound 15 shillings per 100 super feet and the copper nails were the equivalent of 75c per pound. The original suit of sails cost 25 pound from Sails and Covers. In those days she carried 750 sq ft of sail. Since the Enfield she has been powered by a Ruston, Bedford and now a 6BB1 Isuzu. I installed this in 1995 and we have had 7000 trouble free hours since. I first went aboard Ngaio when I was 4 months old. I have 4 children and 9 (to date) grand children and they all love her as much as those that have gone before. I think she will keep the same name and family ownership for a while yet.