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About Alan Houghton - waitematawoodys.com founder

What is Waitemata Woodys all about? We provide a meeting point for owners and devotees of classic wooden boat. We seek to capture the growing interest in old wooden boats and to encourage and bring together all those friendly people who are interested in the preservation of classic wooden vessels for whatever reason, be it their own lifestyle, passion for old boats or just their view of the world. We encourage the exchange of knowledge about the care and restoration of these old boats, and we facilitate gatherings of classic wooden boats via working together with traditionally-minded clubs and associations. Are you a Waitemata Woody? The Waitemata Woodies blog provides a virtual meeting point for lovers of classic and traditional wooden boats.
 If you are interested in our interests and activities become a follower to this blog. The Vessels Featured The boats on display here (yes there are some yachts included, some are just to drop dead stunning to over look) require patrons, people devoted to their care and up keep, financially and emotionally . The owners of these boats understand the importance of owning, restoring and keeping a part of the golden age of Kiwi boating alive. The boats are true Kiwi treasure to be preserved and appreciated.

Classic Reproductions

Classic Reproductions

Today’s post profiles the work of Wayne Spicer, a very talented modeler who has built an impressive number of our classic fleet. Wayne has been modeling for approx. 17 years & is a volunteer model maker at the Maritime Museum in Auckland (on Tuesdays). Wayne has built a number of square riggers including Endeavour, Bounty (3), Victory (3), Spanish galleon.

While at the Museum Wayne meet Rod Marler, the owner of the Logan yacht ‘Little Jim’, Rod commissioned Wayne to build a model of LJ & this got Wayne hooked on Logan boats. Wayne told me that he enjoyed the classic lines of the Logans and how they showed the evolution of sailing designs since the late 1800’s. You will see from the the list below that he has built quite a few.

BUILT TO DATE:

Thelma
Rainbow
Waitangi
Jessie Logan (2)
Little Jim (2)
Tawera (2)
Ariki
Aromoana
Ngaio
Gypsy
Nomad
Ranger
Helen

Most of Wayne’s models are made from scratch which means they are not kit sets, fyi below are some photos of the model making process for Nomad.

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Aroha

AROHA
photo ex Robert Brooke

Another photo from the Jack Brooke collection. Son Robert thinks the location is North Harbour, Kawau Island, but not positive.

What do we know about Aroha ?

Input from Harold Kidd

I have always thought that this image was at Lidgards’ property at Shark Bay in Bon Accord. The launch is the 23’9″ x 6’3″ AROHA owned by T H Scandrett of Mullet Point about this time. She was built about 1907 in Auckland but I can’t tell you who built her. She had a 4hp Standard marine engine and reverse gear.

A Quiz

A Quiz photo ex Harold Kidd With todays post we are looking to put a name to this Auckland steam launch, her build / launch date being just post the WW1 period. She was twin-screw, twin Simpson-Strickland tandem compound-engined. Her boilers were by Price, 40 ihp per engine @ 250 rpm that pushed her along at very impressive 24 knots.

Anyone able to ID her or provide  more info?

27-05-2015 A Confession from Harold K

Alan has suggested that I come clean and confess that I was winding up Russell aka vintagesteamer.
Daniel was a bycatch.
I bought the postcard on which this image appears many years ago and immediately thought it was a spoof for all the reasons that Russell and Daniel advance. The Simpson Strickland, 24 knots etc were poetic licence on my part.
In the original image there appears to be a shimmer of heat from the forward “funnel” which smudges the rigging of the little coastal steamer at the wharf. That does lend verisimilitude to the steamer thesis.
The point that Frank Stoks makes never occurred to me, that the conventional oil launch nearest the camera was conveniently juxtaposed in front of a twin-funneled steamer. I am not at all sure that’s the case as the same objections would apply to the boat behind which would have to be jolly small (and a fake itself perhaps). I did think that the boat behind (if there was one) could be some kind of smart Naval picket boat or pinnace from, say, one of the many visiting warships during the interwar period but can’t find a suitable prototype in the British, US and Japanese navies.
I now think that the two funnels are dummies done as some kind of visual joke…but why?
And why have those two short clerestories, which would seem to serve no purpose, unless they are dummies too?
I trawled through newspapers of the time and can find no reference to such a spoof taking place, nor can I id the launch, sans accoutrements. I have been busy and haven’t followed up one wild line that might explain the spoof. Will do so and report.
However, it’s time to confess and congratulate the contributors on their display of erudition and common sense.

Mandalay

Mandalay II?

colour photos ex Ken Ricketts

The question for ww’s today is – is the Mandalay above the same boat as below – the 1957 Mandalay, built by Dave Jackson & Graham Christian in Devonport for Ken Quinton. She was designed by Brin Wilson ?
Keen to know more on the vessel.

 

Rawhiti – A Once In Your Life Time Opportunity

Rawhiti – A Once In Your Life Time Opportunity
photos ex Classic Boat, Chris Miller, Alan H & owner

Firstly – a challenge – can anyone dispute that Rawhiti is New Zealand’s finest classic yacht afloat? From all angles she is simply beautiful, a true classic from the drawing board of Arch Logan & built by Logan Bros.
Rawhiti was completely rebuilt by Peter Brookes at Brookes Boatbuilders in 2011. For her owner Greg Lee, it was a pure labour of love, he extensively researched every aspect of the project & worked alongside Peter on a daily basis, the end result being a Logan that is better than launch day in October 1906 & thats pretty bold statement to make about a Logan.

Yachts like Rawhiti only come along once in a life time, to get the chance to buy one is even rarer. That opportunity now exists, to do that – to own this beautiful piece of New Zealand’s maritime heritage, a floating work of art.

So my 2nd challenge today is to all classic boating aficionados – gather your friends or business associates & form a syndicate, sell that bloody ugly Colin McCahn, sell a few shares, sub-divide that section – do what ever you have to do, to put the money together to acquire Rawhiti.

Interested? – read on

Without boring you with details, Rawhiti’s owner is serious about selling her & now via another business transaction has the opportunity to offer Rawhiti for sale to the right owner for a fractional of the restoration cost i.e. in the $400k range.
The time window in which the business transaction is available is short and therefore there is a limit to how long Rawhiti will be marketed in this price range. If you are interested in discussing the sale, please initially, contact the owner Greg Lee on the email address below.
For anyone with an interest in acquiring Rawhiti who is unsure what they might be doing with her in the short term (but wishing to secure the opportunity to acquire her now), her owner has had provisional discussions with Peter Brookes about storing her under cover at his yard at favourable rates.

Owner email contact:       greg-lee@xtra.co.nz

Pilot

PILOT
photo ex Dean Wright

The above photos show the launch Pilot competing in the Whangaroa Classic Boats Game Fishing Contest. She was based up in Houhora at that time. Not a lot of brain cells were used up when they named her, as in her previous life she used to be the pilot boat in New Plymouth 🙂

I’m keen to learn a little more about her, anyone able to help?

More photos from Dean taken in 2007. At the time she was owned by Paul Nattrass.

Lady Eileen

LADY EILEEN
photos & report ex Hylton Edmonds via Ken Ricketts. edited by Alan H

Ken reports that Hylton, who bought Lady Eileen the 1947 Shipbuilders/SupaCraft bridge-decker approx. a year ago & relocated her to his property at Tapu Point in the Bay of Islands, is now 8 months into an extensive refit/refurb. You will see from the above photos that Hylton has rather a nice ‘shed’ & has retained the services of some true craftsman to undertake the work.
ww followers may recall that after her previous live-a-board owner passed away, Lady Eileen was listed on trademe for a long time. Lady Eileen is a very lucky boat to now have Hylton as her custodian & based on the standard of the work completed to date, despite being 68 years old, she will be relaunched better than new.
We look forward to more update.

Search Lady Eileen in the ww search box to see early photos.

Update from Russell Ward who you will see is a fan 🙂

Oh sterling effort, Mr Edmonds. Ten points/five stars for your effort! And a most deserving ship to lavish all that effort on. A super SuperCraft job!
Tim Windsor was the in-house designer at Shipbuilders at the time and Lady Eileen and her half sisters Mahara, Rosemary and Rakanoa were all just right. Mahara (just the same cabin arrangement) being a much shorter boat still worked OK (and that was hard to do); but Eileen managed to draw it out much better with the extra length.
Have a squint and admire the details. Humour me…. That graceful sheer, little kick up aft, the rubbing strakes that set it off (get one of those wrong and it would spoil it); the curvaceous tops to the toe rail fwd (Mahara was the same) -almost a turtle deck effect. The cabin tops -just a little curve in them fore and aft. Look at the curved edges to the tops of the fwd wheelhouse screens. A lesser designer would have had them angular and would have put three in. He might have put an eyebrow atop them and again detracted from it. Admire the treatment of the alternate windows/portholes aft -all four had that. It is mimicked up fwd too. Yep, everything just right. The flying bridge -a later add on is not bad -works OK because she is a big boat.
I surmise that Shipbuilders still had the men that were there during WW2 doing Fairmiles and the like -the knowledge capital/ expertise. Tim had trained by correspondence from the USA, I heard once. Anyone got anything else on his history?
Oh, say again. Well done (doing?) Hylton!

Work Report from the owner – 23-05-2015

Sadly the cabin sides are well passed returning to varnish (which in any case would have been the old imitation graining system so popular back in that era through to the 60’s, ex Pilot Boat Waitemata was a classic example).

I feel though, with a combination of refurbished varnished pieces and all her refurbished chrome, she  will still look the (glamourous) Hunter’s  Lady Eileen, as follows;

1.    Hand rails (on refurbished stainless steel stanchions – added at time of flying bridge 20 years ago)
2.    Skylight (original)
3.    Dorade boxes (original complete with refurbished Chrome Bronze cowls)
4.    Mast
5.    New Teak Wheelhouse doors (sadly the old ones were full of gravings, repairs and freshwater rot and have been “retired”)
6.    Entire Flying Bridge . The internal panel is painted out now,  accentuating the shear and considered by all –  a great improvement on this “large” addition.
7.    Oregon Boat hooks (with chrome tips) on new Teak cradles
8.    Cockpit Coamings (attached is a photo with just 3 coats of Uroxsys on to protect in the interim before final 6 more coats)
9.    Foredeck Teak Hatch (original)
10.    Name Boards (with chrome letters)
11.    Ensign Mast
12.    And…..if one can procure the original Clinker Dinghy or suitable replacement……

Lady Clair (L) & Lady Eileen at Gulf Harbour May’14

Lady Clair (L) & Lady Eileen at Gulf Harbour May'14

28-04-2016 Work in progress photos ex Ken Ricketts (17 April)

 

Dagmar

DAGMAR
photo ex John Wicks

While we have a name for today’s post, that’s all so it’s really a ‘Mystery Boat’.
CYA member John Wicks (Sirena) took the above photos of the bridge-decker Dagmar, moored in Coromandel Harbour, off Te Kouma Village – he thinks the locals call the bay Hannafords.
According to the young bloke who owns her, she was built at Coromandel by Turner in the 60s. He doesn’t know much else about her.

Hopefully ww can shed more light on this launch.

Ronomor

RONOMOR

Todays post is a complete mystery to me. When looking thru the ww photo files I discovered a folder tagged ‘Ronomor????’ . At some stage I must have ear-marked it for future reference / follow-up. If someone out there sent these photos to me, I apologize for the void.

Now folks – anyone able to supply more info on her or ID the people in the photo, that would be good 🙂

Update – Slightly embarrassed – I have posted Ronomor before. But todays post has prompted Baden Pascoe to send me the great story below – enjoy the read.

RONOMOR & HER KEEPERS

One of my favourite pastimes is to roam around commercial wharves and docks and look at the old and the new workboats. I get a real kick out of seeing a well set up work boat that is well maintained and ready to deal with the many challenges she encounters when at sea.

Every time I see a boat that meets these standards my mind goes back 40 years to the days when Bert and Neil Chaney owned and operated the immaculately kept 36” fishing boat “Ronomor”. To this day I would still award them first prize if this activity were some sort of competition. Some people maintain that work boats cannot be maintained to a high standard when operating them in a commercial environment. The Chaney’s however managed to do this year in and year out with a wooden vessel that was not purpose built for commercial use and was 50 plus years old. They worked “Ronomor” very hard in all weathers, but they always put back what they took out of their boat. They were very successful commercial fishermen in all aspects of their profession.

A few years ago I did some research to try and find “Ronomor” and after a few months, a friend of mine spotted an old launch that matched her description. Sure enough this was the boat I had been searching for and remarkably she was still in reasonable shape. She is so typical of the many old pleasure launches that were converted to harbour and coastal fishing boats. Unfortunately due to their mainly light construction not many of them have survived.

“Ronomor”was built at Stanley Bay by Wattie or Davy Darroch in 1908. Some time before 1920 she was lengthened and a canoe stern was added to give her a total overall length of some 36’. Before she was built the Darrochs used a dinghy to row from Devonport to the city and to any other destinations on the Auckland harbour . When they built this launch they knew their rowing days were over and so the new boat was appropriately named “Ronomor”. I’m sure that the builders had many adventures in this lovely little launch and there must be many stories about their life and times with the boat.

The name of the next owner of the boat is unknown at the stage but she was based in Napier, and it may have been at this time that she was converted to a fishing vessel.

Bert Chaney purchased her in 1939 and steamed her to Tauranga. At this stage she still had a Scripps, which was possibly the first engine to be installed in the boat. These well proven marine petrol motors were imported by T.M. Lane & Sons (Later Lane Motor Boat Company). The engine was fitted with battery ignition. On one occasion Bert was picking up his long lines by dinghy (a technique he used by himself) when on returning to the boat he found a flat battery. “Ronomor” was anchored in the lee of the Alderman Islands, and he had no option but to row to Whangamata and buy a charged battery. He set off again and returned to the Alderman’s arriving late in the evening. The battery was fitted and the Scripps fired up. On his return to Tauranga he had a magneto fitted!

In 1944 the Chaney family moved to Whitianga, and “Ronomor” was used to transport the entire contents of their home. Neil recalls that the later part of the voyage was hard going because the weather had turned bad. At this stage the vessel had a JP 2.21 Lister as power and progress towards Whitianga in heavy weather , with a huge load on board was hard going. Once the Chaney family were relocated in Whitianga, Bert set up his fishing business and concentrated on cray fishing and long lining. From time to time he would undertake charter work, when the big game fishing season was in full swing. He was a very popular skipper with overseas fishermen who came to Whitianga for the International competitions. He was well known for his double strikes of yellow fin Tuna on light tackle, and Hank Newman from the New South Wales Fishing Club was one of his regular clients. In 1947 Bill Clark, another well known Whitianga fishing identity, fishing from the “Ronomor” landed what has been considered the largest marlin caught in New Zealand waters. At the weigh in the antiquated scales, which only registered to 900lbs, flicked fully around, but the estimated weight of the fish was in excess of 1000 lbs. The fish was played for 12 hours and 10 minutes. A marathon that would match the stories of Hemmingway ‘s “The Old Man of the sea “

In the mid 1940’s she was steamed to Auckland and the JP 2 was removed and a new JP 3 fitted. This gave her a top speed of 8-8.5 knots. Bert continued his charter work and was a very active member of both the Mercury Bay Game Fishing Club and the Mercury Bay Boating Club. “Ronomor” featured in most of the launch races at the Mercury Bay Regatta.

As I stated Bert and Neil maintained the boat in a meticulous manner. Every year she was slipped at Whitianga and any repair that was required,carried out. She was sanded and repainted to a high standard. Every few years all paint was removed from her hull and super structure and she was taken back to bare wood. My Father was the only person Bert would allow to carry out any structural work. Whenever “Ronomor” was hauled out Dad would be working on her and I would make visits to the beach at the bottom of the road and inspect the day’s work. This always started with a cup of tea made with condensed milk and some of Mrs. Chaney’s home cooking. Bert and Neil would always make me welcome.

In the early 60’s the JP 3 picked up a liner during a cray fishing and long lining trip. Bert and Neil were at the Red Mercurys when this fatal mechanical incident occurred. Before they could reach the engine room the damage was done. Unfortunately the JP 3 was beyond repair and had to be replaced. A new Lees Marine (Fordson) 6 cylinder was fitted by Allen Watson (Marlin Motors) and my Father did the structural work. The Lister gearbox was retained and fitted to the bell housing on the new Fordson.                                                                                  

In the late 60’s early 70’s Bert retired and put “Ronomor” on the market. A young Whitianga man Ian Clow was about to start a career in commercial fishing and he immediately identified “Ronomor” as a “turn key” operation. He followed in Bert’s footsteps and in a very short time gained a reputation as a true professional out of the same mould as Bert Chaney. He worked the boat very hard and continued in the same way as Bert and Neil had done in maintaining the boat to the highest of standards. Ian told me of some very close calls he had while working his pots. One day he had a line around the prop shaft and lost all control over forward and reverse. He had to very quickly remove the inspection plate of the old Lister gearbox and hammer the brake band free to enable forward motion. All this was taking place while his boat and crew were about to grind themselves to death on a group of rocks only a few feet away. Another incident he recalls was lifting his pots at Devils Point and the echo sounder block was sheared off the hull by a large rock. ‘Ronomor” took on water rapidly through the bolt and transducer holes, and they had to make a dash to the closest sandy beach at a speed of 10 knots. My Dad had to come out and temporarily patch up the boat and she was steamed back to Whitianga for slipping and repair.

Ian did not have to do a lot of modifications to the boat in the time he owned her. He did replace the Lister gearbox after the rope around the prop incident and my Father replaced some of the Pohutukawa knees and fitted some stringers to the cockpit area to stiffen the hull. Ian also fitted an AWA double sideband radio that had been purchased with a donation given to him by two men who were rescued by a foreign freighter and transferred to “Ronomor” near the Southern end of Ohinau Island . One of the last things Ian did was to replace the Fordson with a later model. I must mention that Ian’s brother Graham designed and built one of the first “power blocks” ever to be used on small fishing vessels in New Zealand. This enabled them to work more pots and was a great advantage to them.

Ian had now been in the fishing industry for 35 years and after owning nine commercial fishing boats he rates “Ronomor” as one of his better boats , and says that she set him up for his future. I’m sure Bert would be proud to hear him say that and proud of the way he looked after the vessel. Ian sold her in the early 80’s to a fisherman from the Barrier.  

The last time I saw “Ronomor” was about 15 years ago tied up at the viaduct. She was not in the mint condition that Bert and Ian had maintained her to. I felt a little sad when I saw her.

I am about to meet Ron Eastlake who now owns “Ronomor” to hand on to him the history I have collected of this remarkable old vessel. I look forward to seeing her again and I will be encouraging Ron to preserve what I call a historic boat. She would be one of the last surviving boats built by the Darrochs who were New Zealand’s most innovative and famous scow building family.

 

 

 

 

 

Awa Manu

 AWA MANU

photo & details ex Pam Cundy, Harold Kidd & Zac Matich

Awa Manu is 32′ loa, built by Dick Lang & powered by a Perkins P6. One of her previous owner, Neil H would like to know a little more about her & her current whereabouts.
Neil sold her approx. 20 years ago. When Neil had her, paper work on board led them to believe she may have been previously named Pasadina.
She was owned by the Going Brothers and game fished out of Tutakaka.
In a post in the ww comments section, Zac Matich advised that she is owned by Royce Powell of Whangarei & in a shed at Kauri (Kauri Point, Tinopai ??)

Can we confirm / expand on the above?