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Avante / Avanti

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Matiatia 1949/50
AVANTE/AVANTI
A message from the new owners.AH
We have recently purchased Avante – a motorsailer from 1946.
We are trying to find more history on her – if any of your members can help.  We found her Registered # carved in as 178442 and Nett Tonnage to be 2.02 tonne
What I have found out from Maritime NZ is:
Her registered name is Avante even though her plaque say Avanti
She was registered in NZ in 1949 and her registration closed in 2003 under Section 91 of Ship Registration Act
Her year of build was 1946 by Bruce Eady in Auckland.  She was designed by Brian Donovan,with a cutter rig and is double diagonal Kauri with carvel plank.
Construction started in 1939 by Brian and his boatbuilder brother Des but nothing was done during the war until 1945 when Brian sold her to Bruce Eady and Bruce put on the third skin and completed the job.
She was launched at Mission Bay in 1946 with a 4 cylinder Gray auxiliary.
Eady sold her to N R Sanson in 1954.
She was in the Sanson family for many years, at least until 1990.
She was stolen in 1973 for a while.
She has a registered length of 8.58 meters.
I have attached some photos of her as we found her in Tauranga – at present she is on our front lawn and work has started on her refurbishment.
Any info anyone may have would be great. Email Ann at
tobinhnz@xtra.co.nz
Note: Thanks to Harold Kid for input re known history
SIDEBAR 1(AH)
B/W photos,  just before launching, supplied by Don Currie , those dad worked with Bruce Eady on Avanti. Avanti was completed on an emptly section on Cogrington Crescent, Mission Bay, his father and Bruce worked on the boat in a partnership.  Don’s parents met through Avanti (one of his Mum’s aunts lived a couple of houses up the road in Codrington Cr), they are still together, and I understand they were right chuffed to hear that the boat is about to get a bit of a birthday.
SIDEBAR 2 (Ken Ricketts)
Photo added of Avante taken in 1949/50 in Matiatia when he was 12 years old
SIDEBAR 3 (by Bruce Eddy ex Ken Ricketts)
I and Graeme Currie worked on her together during the war.  Materials were scarce we had no electricity so everything was done with hand tools.  I remember carving out the original mast by hand what a job.
The correct name or the name i christened her is Avanti.
The two crew mentioned in the photo at Matiatia are John Kernahan and Vern DeGroot.  Graeme and I spent hours riveting and with his design brilliance, we installed a gray marine in the cockpit, reverse position driving a 2 to 1 chain reduction.  Petrol shortage made us build a heat exchanger to switch to kerosene.  The lead keel we moulded on site with firewood from scrape suffering many personal lead burns.  Originally I installed a small wood burner stove and we made our own style toilet.  The rig was my own design and given a good wind on a reach we would keep up with many yachts.
SIDEBAR 4 (by Ann Tobin, current owner, ex Ken Ricketts)
Currently she is sitting on our front lawn in Kaikohe – the photos on waitematawoodys are the day we hauled her out and had her trucked up in May this year.  She hadn’t been out of the water (or off her marina berth at Bridge Marina Tauranga) for 9 years.
We have found an amount of rot in her (mainly just the planks) and she is slowly drying out.  At present the interior is gutted – she had been leaking through the cabin top and the inside was completely ruined.
Avante is now powered with a Sole Diesel – which we have out and intend to have blasted and painted (at present sitting on our garage floor on a pellet) – The engine would not run – a starter motor issue we believe.  Steve (my husbands) father has worked on these engines so looking forward to getting it going.
I believe that the previous owner used her as a batch basically in Tauranga as he lived in Huntly.
I have attached some photos of her at home for you (added to the montage above AH) – you can see where we have started stripping paint and some of the areas of rot we have found.  There is also a couple of the cabin top which is now sealed and Steve has started to fiberglass.  It had a type of cloth over it which has split – never been repaired – and therefore was leaking like the proverbial sieve!
Sometimes I think we are mad – but others cant wait to see her back in the water.  Wooden boats are in my blood – Mum and Dad did a similar thing with “Isa Lei” back in the 90’s – we see she has just been resold by a guy in Whitianga.

Royal Saxon

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ROYAL SAXTON

photos & story ex Harold Kidd

ROYAL SAXON was built by Colin Wild for Whangarei surveyor Harold Frederick Saxon Charlesworth and launched in October 1930.

She was 33ft loa, 9ft 6in beam and drew just under 4ft. Her original engine was a 35hp Kermath.

In late 1936 Charlesworth sold her to Mrs. G Kendall of Hamilton who kept her on the Waitemata. The Sanders brothers bought both ROYAL SAXON and MOVARIE in 1940. They kept MOVARIE until they bought LADY CROSSLEY in 1956 but sold ROYAL SAXON in 1943 to Gordon Hunter. ROYAL SAXON was a patrol vessel with NAPS from around 1942-1943, under skipper J G Brook as Z21.

Gordon Hunter sold her to R & J F Phillips-Turner in 1945, they sold her to W G Gottwaltz of Thames in 1947; he sold her to J G Browne of Katikati in 1948; he sold her and she was owned in 1973 by Dr. W R Trotter of Epsom. She was owned in Motueka  when I saw her and photographed her about 11 years ago nosing her way into the Sandfly (Falls) River on the Tasman Bay coast, still in lovely condition.

The photo of her on the slip at Whakatakataka Bay is probably during the latter stages of the war when she had reverted to civilian control. She’s wearing her wartime reporting number on her bows without which she could have been sunk by the batteries on North Head.

Update from Rick McCay (current owner of Luana)

We owned Royal Saxon from 1989 to 1994. She was a superb first classic launch for us. We bought her from Don Watson who lived on Waiheke Island and to his credit she was in perfect condition. We restored the bridge varnish as she was all white when we got her. In 1994 we sold her as we had fallen under the spell of Luana, and as we all know while owning one old boat is a catastrophe, two is an absolute disaster. We sold her to a lovely man Captain Tom Rowling [brother of PM Bill Rowling] who was skipper of the Golden Bay cement ship. We had a great afternoon on board his ship one time it was in Auckland. He trucked Royal Saxon to Mana and motored her across Cook Strait to her future home, Motueka. Dr Trotter was a keen amateur cabinet maker and Saxon had a lovely interior courtesy of his expertise.

SIDEBAR (ex AH)

Now a woody who shall remain nameless passed this story onto me 🙂
“When Doc Trotter owned “Royal Saxon”, he had an elegant daughter who was draped on the bikini deck  –the part between the houses on a bridgedecker –quite sheltered for sunbathing.. Anyway, I did my hair and rowed slowly past and tried to chat her up. She didn’t want any of it! Shame-  she could have had me too if she had tried.
 Life is paved with rebuffs from Dio and St Cuths chicks…..”
17-02-2016 photo of Royal Saxon at Kaiteriteri ex John Burland
Royal Saxon @ Kaiteriteri

Want to be a waitematawoody?

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Easy – buy Rotomahana, the 1923 Bailey & Lowe launch. Harold Kidd referred to her as a ‘baby Romanace II’, owned long-term by Humphrey Duder of Devonport.
33ft, kauri hull, 45hp dsl, 4 berths, toilet with holding tank, gas cooker, fridge, gps chartplotter, depth sounder, 2 x batteries, shorepower, electric capstan, aft boarding platform. A well presented classic. Call Gavin in Picton on 0272 757 716 Reduced to $32,500
 
 More photos & details here 

Classic dinghy moments

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Classic Dinghy Moments

In the clinker (L>R) Douglas, Hugh & Ivan Guthrie. fyi Hugh celebrated his 93 birthday in June.

 
They always said ……we can get another in…..no fast boats to whip around the corner & swamp everyone in those days. We used to do it ourselves when young. It was very hard to get a good pull on the oars with a crowd. However we survived 🙂
 
photos & words from Roger Guthrie

Belle Isle

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BELLE ISLE
New owner, looking for details on this rather pretty 27′ double ender. Kauri planked, obviously had an in-board before that appendix on the stern. The un-confirmed build date is ‘said’ to be 1913. As the architects say – she has great bones. I can just see her on a lake.
She came from Taranaki.
Being this distinctive someone must be able to shed some light on her past?
Harold Kidd Update:
The only reference I have found is to a BELLE ISLE being a 26ft Hutt Valley launch, one of 23 that joined the Heretaunga Boating Club in October 1929. I suppose it’s the same one that somehow migrated up the coast to New Plymouth, maybe by rail. I would think that 1913 is right for the raised foredeck but wrong for the torpedo stern unless she’s a Sounds boat where the builders favoured such sterns well after they had been dropped in favour of broad tuck sterns elsewhere.
Belle Isle was a well-known barque that traded on the Tasman in the late 19th century and could be the inspiration for her name, although I suspect she wasn’t built as BELLE ISLE.
Update (09/07/13) from the new owner
I’ve just caught up with the guy who sold it to me, I’ve got some new info on her.
First, she’s never been to Taranaki..but she was built in Auckland, spend a long time on Lake Waikaremoana and end up in Wanganui.
Harold Kidd Update

If that’s the case, then she would have been built in the period 1903-6 and certainly without that raised foredeck. In 1903 Logan Bros built a launch, KAHURANGI, for the Government Tourist Bureau’s passenger work on the Lake of vaguely similar configuration, but bigger at 36ft, so there’s a possibility that she’s a Logan. It was quite a trick getting vessels to the Lake in those days as they had to be shipped to Gisborne and taken over the metalled road to the Lake on a waggon drawn by a bullock team. 
A Dr. Collins of Gisborne had a similar launch on the Lake which was damaged in a fire in 1913. I have no name for that boat, but it could have been rebuilt in this configuration after the fire, perhaps?
Most of the Lake launches migrated there from Gisborne or Napier, like IDALIA which is still there.
 
HK Update2
As an afterthought, It’s unlikely she was built by Logan Bros who, although they built many launches with this type of “torpedo” or “compromise” stern, usually didn’t build single skin boats, nor would they have built a single skin boat with those horrible butts in the planking in the image taken from aft, although I guess they could be the result of amateurish repairs.

Meteor

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METEOR
Another owner looking for more info on their launch.

‘Meteor’ was built in 1912 by David Reid and about 1948 registered as H-1 and renamed Heather C.  Owner at this stage was F C Conway. The current owners don’t even have a photo of her.
The coloured photo above is what she was like when purchased by a previous owner.  She was purchased while lying in mud and was too nice a boat to leave her there.  The owners did some work to her to use over the summer period & now she is back on the hard in Whangarei for major work.

Update from Harold Kidd:
There is considerable puzzlement about the provenance and names of this boat. She is supposed to have been built as a 28ft mullet boat by David Reid along the lines of the other 28 footers he built for fishing, as did Harvey and Lang at the same time. She was probably built for the Ponsonby fisherman George Murphy and called METEOR originally, then went to Hooks of Putiki and had several subsequent names, SCUD, VALKYRIE and HEATHER C. Some of these 28 footers had no centreboard, but this one must have, as she was registered as an H Class in 1948. Several other 28 footers were made into launches as their hulls were eminently suitable once the centreboard slot had been sealed, for example TWILIGHT (now dying on a farm near Kawakawa) and ZITA.