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Norma

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NORMA
photos via Nathan Herbert ex Manukau Yacht & Launch Club collection

Three photos today of the 40′ launch Norma. The top one is dated 14-01-1915. The middle one records her in 1929 winning a MY&LC race for launches helmed by ladies. Also featured are the yachts ‘Sea Gnome’ & ‘Sylvis’.
The bottom photo is from 1939 & shows Norma & the 26′ launch ‘Marina’ being off loaded (lorry?) & re-launched into the Waitemata Harbour. I’m sure Harold can enlighten ww followers the reason these launches made the trip from the Manukau.

Can we expand some more on Norma – designer/builder etc?

Harold Kidd Input

There were several NORMAs. This Coulthard NORMA was built at Onehunga for the Jeffs brothers and launched in November 1913. She was a 32ft flushdecker with an anonymous 10hp engine but had a 30hp 4 cylinder Wolseley installed in the winter of 1919. The Jeffs sold her to C. “Shorty” Schnauer in January 1921. In the 1930s she was sold to Whitianga for game fishing. She was owned there by Bill Clark and was in Whitianga until at least 1980.
I don’t know this MARINA under that name. There were many MARINAS, another one game fishing out of Mangawai in the early thirties owned by Franich but it can’t be this one.

SEA GNOME was one of the square bilge 14 footers built by George Honour that formed the basis of the so-called “Sea Class”, 14ft “flatties” most with names starting with “Sea” that latter morphed into the Auckland Y Class. Honour built her in 1921 and she was an immediate champion. Chuck Auger owned her for 14l years and took her to the Manukau in 1927. She raced on both harbours. The Y14 on her sail was her Manukau number.
SYLVIA was a 22ft mullet boat designed by Dick Lang and built by Harvey & Lang in October 1912. She was on the Manukau from 1924 to 1930, mostly owned by C. Paul.

Sylvia – Sailing Sunday

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SYLVIA
photo & details ex Juliana Cooke (nee Turnwald)

Sylvia the mullet boat (L33) pictured above on the Waitemata harbour, c.1950/51, was owned by John Turnwald, John & Juliana would be interested to hear if anyone knows what became of her.

Input from Harold Kidd
SYLVIA was built by Harvey & Lang in November 1912 for Horace Parker and W Shraffe. She spent many years on the Manukau in the 20s. John Turnwald owned her with Sumich 1945-51 at least. She was being restored in Kawhia in 1989 and was in Raglan in 1992. I suspect that her bones may still be in that area.
Input from Robin Elliott
Not sure where she went after the Turnwalds owned her. I have them owning her from around 1946 to 1954 at least. After 1954, no mention of her at all until she crops up in the Taranaki area and is offered for sale in Sea Spray October 1964 by K. Risch of Waitara.
I also have a note taken from one of the Panmure Boating Club committee records around 1946 that she had a stove fire alongside Panmure Wharf while burning off, and 3 children were killed.
Papers Past haven’t got up to 1946 yet so I can’t provide any more details.
In the 1945/46 lists she is ‘unregistered’ but appears under J.B. Turnwald’s name in the 1946/47 AYMBA registration book.
Also…… I suspect that photograph may be older than the 1950’s. I’m not sure who the sail maker was but that style of applying the registration numbers on a piece of cloth that was sewn onto the mainsail was quite common on photographs I have seen from the 1920’s to early 1930’s. Separately applied letters and numbers were, I guess, a bit more expensive but were pretty much the norm from the 1930’s onwards.
Either that or its a very old mainsail.

Update 15-06-2015 ex Barry Davis
The  photo below was taken 2012 in the Henderson Creek off Te Atatu. She was still on this mooring at least 12 months later.

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Photo below ex Nathan Herbert – same Sylvia?