Tibbs’ Beach – Sailing Sunday

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Tibbs’ Beach – Sailing Sunday

The above photo, from the A. Turnbull Library, was taken by William A Price in the early 1900’s & shows a collection of yachts & a small motor boat hauled out on cradles for maintenance at Tibbs’ Beach, Ponsonby.

Got to love the father & son + old boy with the walking stick, bowler hat & pipe in the center of the photo – that is what its all about-the 3 F’s – fun, friendship & fraternity 😉

So woodys todays questions – what is Tibbs’ Beach known as today ? And can we ID the boats?

Harold Kidd Input

From the left is ROMP alias CHARIE but built as EHOA by Tom Le Huquet in 1892, winter-quartered at Tibbs Beach when owned by Fred Rule. I can’t positively id the little double-ended launch. Next is, I reckon, QUEENIE, hauled out at the beach when owned by Tom Hill. Next is, I think, SCOUT when owned by the Ewen brothers who lived in Shelley Beach Road. Possibly, however, it’s MAYO which also pulled out there until she was damaged and broken up in late 1913 but I think MAYO was smaller although of the same general form. The bow of the boat on the right doesn’t tell us much except that she’s a small straight-stemmer. My pick is NEOLA which was owned by Treanor and hauled out here at this time.
I reckon the date is winter 1912 plus or minus a year.

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“Aquatics” correspondents of the newspapers and magazines of the time were fond of producing copy from a wander along the haul out areas around the harbour to fill their columns in the winter, so you can pretty well flesh out the boats hauled in each spot, season by season. The key to this image is the presence of EHOA aka RHONA/RONA/CHARIE (not CHARLIE), but ROMP at this time and that puts the dates to 1910-14 at the outside either way.
The other yachts which used Tibbs’ Beach for winter haulout within that period were (alphabetically) ARIKI, HEARTSEASE, LITTLE JIM (the first), MABEL, MAYO, NEOLA aka ALOFA/AWATEA, QUEENIE, ROSE aka MOUTERE, SCOUT, the 16 footer SURPRISE and VALDORA, then a big centreboarder.
The only candidate for the #2 yacht from this dramatis personae to my mind is VALDORA, then owned by W.T. Matthews but she was only 26ft loa. MABEL, now WAIATA in Wellington, has a raked stem and is 33ft, but no “spoon”.
Any other ideas?

13 thoughts on “Tibbs’ Beach – Sailing Sunday

  1. Capt. Farquhar’s MABEL was a 24ft Open Sailing Boat he owned from early 1880 until the end of 1881 when he sold her to Wanganui. He took her to Tauranga on the GLENELG and won the Tauranga Regatta in March 1880. She had been built as DAISY by J.S. Bigelow in 1878.
    The MABEL hauled out at Tibbs’ Beach was a 36ft keel yacht built by C. & W. Bailey in 1895 for W. Swinnerton. She’s still afloat in Wellington as WAIATA.
    The Farquhars were very prominent in yachting in Auckland, Tauranga and Napier for many years with many yachts.

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  2. Love the picture! Did anyone else spot the legs hanging out of the pohutukawa tree ? Bit of bosuns chair time while on the grid! Hi Harold, You mentioned ‘Mabel’ – was that Capt. Willam Farquhar’s Mabel? He lived in Russell Street, Ponsonby and likely he kept his boat nearby. My Great Grand Dad was he! Id be keen to learn about Mabel.

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  3. Well, she looks very like the 32 footer SPEEDWELL at the time she was owned by C. de Berg of Ponsonby . She has the characteristic Chas. Bailey Jr big fat bollard at the heel of the bowsprit and broad counter so I’m convinced whatever she is, she was built by CB Jr. The only problem with SPEEDWELL is that she had a white cabin top a lot of the time but that was reported to have been painted blue or green in late 1911 and kept that colour when Frank Cloke, Joe Patrick and Lee Simpson bought her in 1913 after which she was hauled out at the Victoria Cruising Club’s yard in Freeman’s Bay.
    In May 1912 she was holed on the starboard side after a collision with a launch. I fancy I see something covering up such a hole.
    So I say SPEEDWELL.
    I’m probably wrong again, making 2 + 2 =5 but it’s an interesting exercise reading the clues.
    BTW that forward hatch confirms QUEENIE.

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  4. “Aquatics” correspondents of the newspapers and magazines of the time were fond of producing copy from a wander along the haulout areas around the harbour to fill their columns in the winter, so you can pretty well flesh out the boats hauled in each spot, season by season. The key to this image is the presence of EHOA aka RHONA/RONA/CHARIE (not CHARLIE), but ROMP at this time and that puts the dates to 1910-14 at the outside either way.
    The other yachts which used Tibbs’ Beach for winter haulout within that period were (alphabetically) ARIKI, HEARTSEASE, LITTLE JIM (the first), MABEL, MAYO, NEOLA aka ALOFA/AWATEA, QUEENIE, ROSE aka MOUTERE, SCOUT, the 16 footer SURPRISE and VALDORA, then a big centreboarder.
    The only candidate for the #2 yacht from this dramatis personae to my mind is VALDORA, then owned by W.T. Matthews but she was only 26ft loa. MABEL, now WAIATA in Wellington, has a raked stem and is 33ft, but no “spoon”.
    Any other ideas?

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  5. Jason, thanks for the supporting ID on Queenie on the right.
    Sadly, ROMP alias CHARLIE on the left is a generation or so before the Arch Logan designed Tawera (sail no. A18) built by Col Wild, launched in 1935 and first owned by Scottie Wilson for whom my father (Bryan Simpson, aged 92) worked in at the Herald & Weekly Times. Bryan also crewed on Tawera, circa late 40’s/early 50’s. I have a photo of him, Scottie and x3 others on board which I
    would like to learn more about.

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  6. hmmm… oh glorious historian I have to disagree on the middle and right yachts, middle is too different to a “Logan” in style and fittings, the one on the right I say is Queenie….

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  7. From the left is ROMP alias CHARIE but built as EHOA by Tom Le Huquet in 1892, winter-quartered at Tibbs Beach when owned by Fred Rule. I can’t positively id the little double-ended launch. Next is, I reckon, QUEENIE, hauled out at the beach when owned by Tom Hill. Next is, I think, SCOUT when owned by the Ewen brothers who lived in Shelley Beach Road. Possibly, however, it’s MAYO which also pulled out there until she was damaged and broken up in late 1913 but I think MAYO was smaller although of the same general form. The bow of the boat on the right doesn’t tell us much except that she’s a small straight-stemmer. My pick is NEOLA which was owned by Treanor and hauled out here at this time.
    I reckon the date is winter 1912 plus or minus a year.

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  8. As many Woodys may recognise, the boat in the foreground has a striking resemblance to ‘Queenie’, a champion “C” class keeler designed by Arch Logan, launched in 1904 and built by Logan Bros; LOA 36ft 2′, beam 8ft 3′ and draught 5ft 9 (with thanks to Robert Brooke).

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