Naomi III

Naomi III

NAOMI III

According to the caption, this her being launched on 2 Sept, 1907 at the yard of Mr. C Bailey Jnr.

photo ex classicgameboatnz

Harold Kidd Update

NAOMI III was the third NAOMI owned by M.A. Jenny of Nelson, Auckland and Wanganui. She was 39’x10’x2’6″ and had a 20hp Gardner 2 cylinder petrol engine. Jenny was a most controversial figure during the years leading up to WW1. Nominally he was Swiss but there were suspicions he was an Austrian and a spy! He was quite a dashing wealthy figure and briefly was Commodore of the North Shore Yacht Club until he resigned in February 1903. He took this launch to Nelson but sold her in 1911 to Downes brothers of Wellington. From there she did the rounds, spending a lot of time in Tauranga game-fishing in the 1930s. I last heard of her she was in Lyttelton owned by John Sole in 2007. Chas. Bailey Jr also built NAOMI I (March 1902) and NAOMI II (November 1902) for Jenny. The latter was until recently to be seen on the hard at Panmure Yacht Club. 

PS Interesting cabin top. Bailey retained the dee-front separate cabin top but put his toe in the water with a raised foredeck as well. Truly a “transitional” style.

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  2. Now I recall you were/are a Ford man. One of my other treasures sold to complete the pub renovation was a 1925 T Speedster – unfinished but all there. It had a high comp ally head, extractors,decent cam. Laurel replica chassis, Buffalo wires and so on. I was contemplating building it up as a single seater and could get it back with luck.
    Garth’s grandfather was Ted Hogan and he built Rosalie – won a regatta or two in her day. Love to know what happened to her. Garth’s father raced V860 powered hydros which look like classic fun.. I love those early hydros – all nose and attitude.Be great to know if any V860 powered units survive from the 50s.
    Your A sounds wonderful. Strangely I have had more to do with T’s but the old A spins my wheels. Speaking of T’s, however, I know an Auckland marine engineer who has among other things a Rajo head T speedster (soon to be Frontenac) which does the ton. He also frightens the bejesus out of anyone willing to sit beside him up in the howling wind.
    Garth told me he knows the whereabouts of Tru Jen! In fact he bought the Allison that powered her. Wouldn’t that be a great resto!

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  3. Hi Tim, I look forward to the Hogan opus. He was very helpful to me providing a C block (fully counterbalanced crankshaft) plus a Hogan high comp head for my Model A pickup which produced 85bhp at the back wheels and scared the pants off everyone who drove it at hillclimbs. Fabulous guy and related to the yachting Hogans.

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  4. Hi Harold, Norton Commandos are indeed diverting, I had to sell my old girl after almost 30 years along with a few other treasures to complete the restoration of The Lumsden Hotel (1875) where I am now publican. We have also nearly finished the resurrection of our old farmhouse (1904). What is this compulsion to defy decay? My new MS on a gentleman called Garth Hogan is about to be edited – another long haul project. Top fuel drag racing and WW2 fighter restoration and flying this time.
    I still love the name Naomi and find it hard to call her Huria but her time will come again when all these projects are done and they are steadily getting done.Your news that Jenny fitted her with a Gardner is not surprising. As an excursion boat she was of course powered by steam so below decks would hardly have been a fitting retreat for sporting gentlemen such as Jenny. Not the sort of place to pour a schnapps for a visiting Q ship Captain!
    Hope you are well. Nice to be in touch.

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  5. Tim, I confess our one and only conversation shifted quickly from boats to Norton Commandos and your great books on the Kiwi motorcycling legends Burt Munro and John Britten! Forgive me for blurring the NAOMIs.

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  6. If HURIA/VANORA she was on the 1908 Rudder Cup race entered by Lindsay Cooke. Interesting survivor! BTW Jenny had a 30hp 3 cylinder Gardner in her in 1906 in Wellington, a very early use of a Gardner engine here.

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  7. The name change is a mystery at this point. I really don’t have any idea but I suppose at some point somebody who knew the Jenny connection simply preferred the name Naomi to Huria. Or maybe it was rescued after loosing her way when her provenance had grown hazy.At any rate photographs of Huria show an exact hull fit for my boat and the dimensions match – which is not the case with any of the Naomis. Jenny was said to have spared no expenses converting what had been a commercial excursion boat into something appropriate for his personal use but photos show a rather awkward, boxy superstructure. Maybe that’s why he sold her on and built something far more modern. I can’t believe that he would have commissioned a boat to be built in a style that was already decidedly ‘old’.I was also told that for a period after the war Air Marshall Sir Kieth Park owned her but have no real evidence to support that other than a comment by an Uncle Kel Forrest Brown who was a mate of Parks. He told me that is was the same boat he’d been out on with Park and recalled that being below was like sitting in a railway carriage – which it is. I guess when Park decided to take up competitive sailing he sold her.I believe the evidence that this Naomi is in fact Huria is beyond reasonable doubt. I did come across references to a game fishing boat operating out of Tauranga years ago called Naomi but that boat was thirty seven feet or so – sounds like Naomi 3. I also heard stories about the other two Naomis but could never track down anything concrete. be nice to think that they are out there somewhere..

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  8. Interesting comment Tim. Jenny bought HURIA and renamed her VANORA and she stayed VANORA when the Government bought her in 1914.
    Odd that HURIA/VANORA had a NAOMI nameplate. How did that happen?

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  9. Naomi Two was not at Panmure until recently. That boat was Huria – a Logan. Huria’s identity was confused with Naomi 111 at some point in her history as she was owned by Jenny in the interval between his ownership of Naomi 11 and Naomi 111.Naomi 11 is a far smaller boat. I have shown you the proof of all this Harold and would appreciate it if you would stop propagating a clear error. Huria is fine by the way,

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  10. PPS Robin Elliott has just pointed out to me that there are some contradictions in the above from what is written in our book “Vintage NZ Launches”. The book was written in 2004 since when I’ve added 9 years of research. The NAOMIS were always confusing because they all kept their names ans were called often just NAOMI. However, it is NAOMI III in Lyttelton and NAOMI II at Panmure (or wherever she is now) despite what we said in the book at pages 18 and 19!.

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  11. PS Interesting cabintop. Bailey retained the dee-front separate cabintop but put his toe in the water with a raised foredeck as well. Truly a “transitional” style.

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  12. NAOMI III was the third NAOMI owned by M.A. Jenny of Nelson, Auckland and Wanganui. She was 39’x10’x2’6″ and had a 20hp Gardner 2 cylinder petrol engine. Jenny was a most controversial figure during the years leading up to WW1. Nominally he was Swiss but there were suspicions he was an Austrian and a spy! He was quite a dashing wealthy figure and briefly was Commodore of the North Shore Yacht Club until he resigned in February 1903. He took this launch to Nelson but sold her in 1911 to Downes brothers of Wellington. From there she did the rounds, spending a lot of time in Tauranga game-fishing in the 1930s. I last heard of her she was in Lyttelton owned by John Sole in 2007. Chas. Bailey Jr also built NAOMI I (March 1902) and NAOMI II (November 1902) for Jenny. The latter was until recently to be seen on the hard at Panmure Yacht Club.

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