Unknown launch 06/11/13

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Unknown Launch

photos from Helen & Richard Andrew’s family collection (grand daughter & her husband of Henry Allen -Tiromoana) ex Ken Rickitts.

There was some thought that the above may have been the Logan Ngaio but review by Harold Kidd & Ngaio’s owner, Ian Kohler, put paid to that.

Any one able to help with ID’ing this fine looking vessel. The photos were taken in the 1940’s.

Harold Kidd Update

Alan has posted me high res copies of the images. They do not conclusively show a chine forward, although they certainly don’t rule it out. The trouble with launch identification is that they change their profiles very often as they are “re-styled” or “modernised”. Many of these launches survive, but we in 2013 don’t recognize them in their earlier phases of development. So I’m working on a relatively complex id system in MS Access which has, as fields, for example, date of pic, bow type, stern type, where the break is, type of tophamper. .The idea is to enable one to see through the modernisations to the original configuration, although how one would cope with the changes to, say, MAVIS B from flushdecked steam launch to her current dieselised bridgedecker setup I’m blessed if I know.

This mystery boat is terribly like, say, ALOHA, and has that St Mary’s Bay 1920s look to her, Collings & Bell, Dick Lang, Leon Warne etc. If she is a chine boat then C&B is likely as Paul points out. Work in progress.

6 thoughts on “Unknown launch 06/11/13

  1. This launch is definitely not the Aloha, although it looks very similar. The Aloha has 2 masts. My uncle, Tom Wood, owned the Aloha from the 60s to the 80s. I have many photos of the Aloha as we used to cruise with him when we were kids. Another photo on this site of the Aumoe tied up to Radio Hauraki was taken by my uncle. We were invited on board the Tiri II to watch them broadcast. As kids it was very exciting to be on a “pirate” ship!!

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  2. I concede that it takes a little imagination to spot the chine forard, but each time I look at this photo I can see it! Maybe the way the waterline has a slight kink below the forard port. This boat looks related to C&B’s Paikeo (1920). Paikeo has one fewer ports and the belting runs forard to meet the stem, in what perhaps is a Collings trademark? – although there are of course examples of his boats where this is not the case (eg Adelaide V – at Taupo and not nearly as good looking as she was as-built).

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  3. Alan has posted me high res copies of the images. They do not conclusively show a chine forward, although they certainly don’t rule it out. The trouble with launch identification is that they change their profiles very often as they are “re-styled” or “modernised”. Many of these launches survive, but we in 2013 don’t recognize them in their earlier phases of development. So I’m working on a relatively complex id system in MS Access which has, as fields, for example, date of pic, bow type, stern type, where the break is, type of tophamper. .The idea is to enable one to see through the modernisations to the original configuration, although how one would cope with the changes to, say, MAVIS B from flushdecked steam launch to her current dieselised bridgedecker setup I’m blessed if I know.
    This mystery boat is terribly like, say, ALOHA, and has that St Mary’s Bay 1920s look to her, Collings & Bell, Dick Lang, Leon Warne etc. If she is a chine boat then C&B is likely as Paul points out. Work in progress.

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  4. I didn’t pick up the chine. Can you confirm from the pic in your possession that there is a chine Alan? That clerestory certainly looks Collings & Bell.

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  5. Looks like a bigger version of Collings and Bell’s convex/concave “Fleetwing”, evidenced by the way the belting runs aft, and a chine forard.

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